MANCHESTER

[droid]

Smiths over Joy Division? I see where youre coming from but I just cant accept that.

Im reconsidering this as we speak.

 

[john eden]

SHOCK CONFESSION

 

[firefinga]

Wow, when I was around 10 and beginning to get interested in pop music, it was all Happy Mondays. "Madchester" and all that. Today, Happy Mondays seem to be totally forgotten.

 

[Corpsey]

AND they practically invented UK funky with "fairground", remember?

LOL

Love don't give a fucknall

He's in some sort of unholy pantheon with Phil Collins and Jay Kay, innee?

Do african-americans rate Simply Red, I wonder?

 

[Corpsey]

I've never understood where Ian Curtis's weird robotic singing voice came from, but I've noticed it's quite similar to Morrissey's in some respects so maybe it's a Manc thing?

 

[firefinga]

I only know Simply Red from the odd video on MTV or when some of their songs was being played on daytime radio at places like waiting rooms and such, but to me they were always representing the yuppie asshole type of the Thatcher era. Maybe I am being unfair now to Simply Red, bc I don't know if they ever issued any political statements - were they lefitst in real life? politically indifferent? Thatcher-ites?

 

[Corpsey]

it's interesting cos these associations don't ultimately stick

hence the critical reappraisal of e.g. collins of late

 

[luka]

I only know Simply Red from the odd video on MTV or when some of their songs was being played on daytime radio at places like waiting rooms and such, but to me they were always representing the yuppie asshole type of the Thatcher era. Maybe I am being unfair now to Simply Red, bc I don't know if they ever issued any political statements - were they lefitst in real life? politically indifferent? Thatcher-ites?

socialist

 

[CrowleyHead]

Do african-americans rate Simply Red, I wonder?

Limited degrees. They never broke into the proper R&B market because when they got sold to the US they were sold to what could best be described as the "Contemporary Pop" scene, basically the post-80s version of Soft Rock. Amy Grant, Jewel, Billy Joel's later years. There are people who really rate them in the way they rate Jamiroquai here (which I know will probably raise eyebrows) in that "wow Brits will work hard to rip-off soul music" cliche. If someone had been smart enough to aim them to that WBLS/"Quiet Storm" demographic, they might have a weird thriving audience in the US the way that Bobby Caldwell did in the 70s here.

 

[CrowleyHead]

Still maintain if Tupac had lived another two years, he would've easily rapped over Simply Red. "I'm-TRYING-to HOLD-back the-YEAAAAAARS!"

 

[Corpsey]

I always loved jamiroquai until I learned that it's not cool to

Upon finding that out I promptly found them cheesy

 

[Corpsey]

I feel like part of the reason why the consciously avant garde producers are actually less likely to produce innovative and exciting music is that they're hemmed in by their cultivated taste.

Like juke producers using evanescence samples, no cool FACT/quietus reading producer would ever do that.

Or maybe this just goes back to that old cheesiness conversation.

 

[firefinga]

I always loved jamiroquai until I learned that it's not cool to

That's a bit lame - dodn't you trust your own judgement? I personally thought Jamiroquai was ok.

 

[firefinga]

A bit funny to include Take That here. I think the city of Manchaster and its musical heritage had no influence in the foundation of this outfit at all.

 

[luka]

Limited degrees. They never broke into the proper R&B market because when they got sold to the US they were sold to what could best be described as the "Contemporary Pop" scene, basically the post-80s version of Soft Rock. Amy Grant, Jewel, Billy Joel's later years. There are people who really rate them in the way they rate Jamiroquai here (which I know will probably raise eyebrows) in that "wow Brits will work hard to rip-off soul music" cliche. If someone had been smart enough to aim them to that WBLS/"Quiet Storm" demographic, they might have a weird thriving audience in the US the way that Bobby Caldwell did in the 70s here.

Nelson George.

 

[firefinga]

simply red - if you dont know me by now

One of the most annoying songs ever recorded.

 

[Corpsey]

A bit funny to include Take That here. I think the city of Manchaster and its musical heritage had no influence in the foundation of this outfit at all.

Big gay scene in Manchester

 

[Corpsey]

That's a bit lame - dodn't you trust your own judgement? I personally thought Jamiroquai was ok.

I still do like their music but not as innocently as before nahmeanuheard

 

[baboon2004]

re simply red, holding back the years has been sampled quite a few times in hip hop - Brand Nubian was the one that I knew, but there's lots more apparently...

 

[CrowleyHead]

Nelson George.

At some point now that I can have a laugh at him I should see how much of him I agree or disagree. His omnipresence as lead talking head was pretty dull tho.