Iran again

[version]

Tucker really going at Cruz here, assuming it's not just theatre.

 

[luka]

Looks and sounds well fake.

 

[GhostofKinski]

It ain’t easy to ❤️ anything by Tucker Carlson but there it is

 

[version]

Looks and sounds well fake.

Yeah, there's something off about it. I suppose the three main options are that 1) Tucker's genuinely anti-war, 2) Tucker's genuinely a Russian asset trying to throw a spanner in the works or 3) Tucker's controlled opposition and this is all theatre directed at the public.

 

[version]

Some have branded him 'Tucker Qatarlson', so I guess that's a fourth possibility.

 

[GhostofKinski]

Yeah, there's something off about it. I suppose the three main options are that 1) Tucker's genuinely anti-war, 2) Tucker's genuinely a Russian asset trying to throw a spanner in the works or 3) Tucker's controlled opposition and this is all theatre directed at the public.

I think that American politicians and their relation to pundits is just so over scripted that when/if there is a genuine moment it feels out of place.

 

[version]

Maybe Russia's a factor with Carlson in particular, but the gist of it seems to be that there are lots of right wingers who don't want a repeat of Iraq and Afghanistan, i.e. getting pulled into something big which requires direct American involvement and could go on for years and years.

"Economist/YouGov poll: 60% oppose US involvement in war with Iran, only 16% in favor. Republicans: 53% oppose, 19% in favor."

 

[Mr. Tea]

Looks and sounds well fake.

That's just Americans for you.

 

[yyaldrin]

good. most Iranias will be happy too, since they hate the mullahs and all that awfulness they represent

Iran could be a really great country, if not for those medieval maniacs holding it down with their nonsense religion.

one of the steps in the regime change playbook usually is to bring in some sort of cia/mossad-financed religious fundamentalist group such as al-qaida or isis to further destabilize the country. so be careful what you wish for. not to mention that in this case, both israel and the usa are more or less ran by religious freaks believing in apocalyptic visions.

 

[germaphobian]

both israel and the usa are more or less ran by religious freaks believing in apocalyptic visions.

That's true. I've heard that most American christians, regardless of denomination, subscribe to that theory that Second Coming will happen when all the Jews return to Israel or something like that.

 

[Clinamenic]

Like, all of them?

 

[GhostofKinski]

That's true. I've heard that most American christians, regardless of denomination, subscribe to that theory that Second Coming will happen when all the Jews return to Israel or something like that.

I can assure you it’s not ALL of them, or according to polls, not even most of them with the exception of Evangelicals.
It can seem that way though. And, I get why you would get that impression. Evangelical PAC’s hold the 2nd coming as a top issue.
Catholics are ore split (almost 50/50) @ support for Israel. That has more to do with just social conservatism & patriotism than true belief in the big J. Exerting final judgment. The Anglican Church is probably the most sizable sect (next to the friends/Quakers) who are socially adverse to military action.

 

[GhostofKinski]

It’s really creepy though. The pure BALLS it takes to demand an unconditional surrender from a sovereign nation that is flawed but not Nazi fucking Germany. In this instance it’s the U.S. & Israel acting 3rd Reich-ish.

 

[Mr. Tea]

one of the steps in the regime change playbook usually is to bring in some sort of cia/mossad-financed religious fundamentalist group such as al-qaida or isis to further destabilize the country. so be careful what you wish for. not to mention that in this case, both israel and the usa are more or less ran by religious freaks believing in apocalyptic visions.

Out of interest, do you believe dark-skinned people are capable of having agency?

 

[yyaldrin]

why would i not?

 

[GhostofKinski]

one of the steps in the regime change playbook usually is to bring in some sort of cia/mossad-financed religious fundamentalist group such as al-qaida or isis to further destabilize the country. so be careful what you wish for. not to mention that in this case, both israel and the usa are more or less ran by religious freaks believing in apocalyptic visions.

I doubt in this particular case ‘the plan’ is to use jihadi head choppers to play significant role. Having said that: any destabilization in the region has surly got the ISIS types drooling and rubbing there hands together like “oh boy, this is gonna be a great opportunity for us.”

 

[luka]

why would i not?

Mr tea has a simple mind he cant concieve of complex causes. Its always one thing or another for him.

 

[version]

Mr tea has a simple mind he cant concieve of complex causes. Its always one thing or another for him.

All the suet pudding's gone to his head.