Iran again
GhostofKinski
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It ain’t easy to ❤️ anything by Tucker Carlson but there it is
version
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Yeah, there's something off about it. I suppose the three main options are that 1) Tucker's genuinely anti-war, 2) Tucker's genuinely a Russian asset trying to throw a spanner in the works or 3) Tucker's controlled opposition and this is all theatre directed at the public.
GhostofKinski
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I think that American politicians and their relation to pundits is just so over scripted that when/if there is a genuine moment it feels out of place.
version
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"Economist/YouGov poll: 60% oppose US involvement in war with Iran, only 16% in favor. Republicans: 53% oppose, 19% in favor."
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
That's just Americans for you.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
one of the steps in the regime change playbook usually is to bring in some sort of cia/mossad-financed religious fundamentalist group such as al-qaida or isis to further destabilize the country. so be careful what you wish for. not to mention that in this case, both israel and the usa are more or less ran by religious freaks believing in apocalyptic visions.
germaphobian
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That's true. I've heard that most American christians, regardless of denomination, subscribe to that theory that Second Coming will happen when all the Jews return to Israel or something like that.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Like, all of them?
GhostofKinski
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I can assure you it’s not ALL of them, or according to polls, not even most of them with the exception of Evangelicals.
It can seem that way though. And, I get why you would get that impression. Evangelical PAC’s hold the 2nd coming as a top issue.
Catholics are ore split (almost 50/50) @ support for Israel. That has more to do with just social conservatism & patriotism than true belief in the big J. Exerting final judgment. The Anglican Church is probably the most sizable sect (next to the friends/Quakers) who are socially adverse to military action.
GhostofKinski
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It’s really creepy though. The pure BALLS it takes to demand an unconditional surrender from a sovereign nation that is flawed but not Nazi fucking Germany. In this instance it’s the U.S. & Israel acting 3rd Reich-ish.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Out of interest, do you believe dark-skinned people are capable of having agency?
GhostofKinski
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I doubt in this particular case ‘the plan’ is to use jihadi head choppers to play significant role. Having said that: any destabilization in the region has surly got the ISIS types drooling and rubbing there hands together like “oh boy, this is gonna be a great opportunity for us.”
luka
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Mr tea has a simple mind he cant concieve of complex causes. Its always one thing or another for him.
version
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All the suet pudding's gone to his head.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Actually I'm the one arguing that the world is not neatly divisible into Baddies and Goodies, or at least Baddies and Victims/Stooges, as you and yy apparently believe.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Because you don't seem to be able to cope with the idea that Arabs/Muslims might have an agenda or ideological programme of their own, but would have to have been bribed, tricked or otherwise instructed to do so by either the US or Israel. It's a depressing and rather racist worldview.