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luka
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Hey look! It's got a sweet message in it! Thanks comelately!
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
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idk if more technocracy is something we should cheering for
(I'm obviously not saying we should be cheering for anti-intellectualism or willful ignorance either)
luka
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What do you think of eg Bronze Age Pervert? I'm trying to get a feel for the comelately gestalt
droid
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Sure. Climate is the thing though. I think I even saw an article in the spectator saying that maybe we should actually listen to experts before a crisis gets out of control.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
droid, it seems like you're basically saying "all this stuff has to happen during this crisis, and hopefully it will stick around after"
which is the positive flipside of "x amount of repressive measures have to happen during this crisis, hopefully they won't stick around after"
I think it's too early to call either side there
what I do know is this: definitely the West, and likely huge chunks of the rest of the world, will come out of this exhausted
governments almost certainly won't be able to stave domestic or global recession
I know what happened the last time an exhausted West emerged from a global crisis that gutted Europe. and that was during a huge economic boom.
which is the positive flipside of "x amount of repressive measures have to happen during this crisis, hopefully they won't stick around after"
I think it's too early to call either side there
what I do know is this: definitely the West, and likely huge chunks of the rest of the world, will come out of this exhausted
governments almost certainly won't be able to stave domestic or global recession
I know what happened the last time an exhausted West emerged from a global crisis that gutted Europe. and that was during a huge economic boom.
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Wild Horses
I had to google him, trying to pigeonhole me as a latent radtrad might be convenient for you but you're clutching at straws I assure you.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
I mean Europe was full of xenophobic sentiment and right-wing demagogues before it got crushed by a pandemic
Mr. Tea
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The thing with this disease is that pretty much everyone is potentially vulnerable. True, some are more vulnerable than others, but in this country, right now, a previously fit and healthy 30-something nurse is on a ventilator.
It doesn't seem to affect kids that much (assuming they're not asthmatic or whatever), but what's going to happen to kids whose parents/carers get badly sick? Children are inherently vulnerable even at the best of times.
And many people who've recovered are showing signs of serious damage to their lungs and other organs.
People need to stop thinking "It's OK, I'm young-ish, no asthma, don't smoke, at worst I'll be laid up in bed for a couple of weeks with Lemsip and Netflix".
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
the only country that looks - so far - to do well out of this is China, which is great if you like authoritarianism and even more aggressive surveillance than we already have
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
that's not a bad shout
did you read the Florida thing I linked a few pages back? linking climate change denial to this denial
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I was thinking the other day, is it all plausible that the reduction in industrial activity, road transport and so on this year due to the pandemic might cause a measurable slowing of the rate of climate change? Because that really would be the nail in the coffin for AGW denial for all but the most hopelessly deluded.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
How will Russia fare? Domestically probably not well once the virus really hits, but geopolitically there might be a lot of opportunities to exert greater power in Europe at least
droid
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I agree, it's too early to say, and the outcomes will be uneven and very wildly.
I dunno how relevant the lessons from the 20th C are. We're in a very different place now. Too early to say how trump will fare, but in general I don't expect incumbents to do so well out of this. Bolsonaro will be lucky to get out of it alive, and Johnson ain't doing too well, so hard to see this being a boom for the current crop of right wingers.
luka
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We were talking about this a lot on the after the lockdown thread. (I think it was that one. Hard when all the threads are about the virus)
And if there's a dramatic uptick in warming despite the reduction in CO2? Yes, I know, inertia in the system, similar decline in cloud cover due to nucleation, reduction in particulates, etc. But I think it would be dangerous or at least unwise to pin too much hope on this one.
droid
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There will be a short term uptick in warming due to decline in aerosol cover, though the research is up in the air regarding the medium to long term effects.
What is clear, and what should be hammered home is that this is what your future will be like if we continue to ignore climate - except much worse. Imagine a pandemic in the midst of rolling food shortages, wildfires, heatwaves and hurricanes.
What this crisis will do, psychologically at least, is denude individual feelings of detachment, normality, the 'it won't happen here/to me' psychological shield that we all carry to some extent. Thats a good thing.
What is clear, and what should be hammered home is that this is what your future will be like if we continue to ignore climate - except much worse. Imagine a pandemic in the midst of rolling food shortages, wildfires, heatwaves and hurricanes.
What this crisis will do, psychologically at least, is denude individual feelings of detachment, normality, the 'it won't happen here/to me' psychological shield that we all carry to some extent. Thats a good thing.
Tinfoil antenna picking up that China is using this as a cover to invade the USA, imminently.
Um... how? Through really long tunnels like in that film from the 60s?
Battle beneath the earth (1967) https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0061387/reviews
Um... how? Through really long tunnels like in that film from the 60s?
Battle beneath the earth (1967) https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0061387/reviews
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luka
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Also corporate feudalism post the collapse of all small independent business.
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