J. H. Prynne

[luka]

yeah, look, i dont think it matters. he just thinks the world is fucked up and unfair and thats something we can all agree with the marxists on.

 

[luka]

you know, like, money makes a mess of things. workers are exploited. work is boring and the waste of a life. that's really what it's about you don't need any more than that.

 

[Benny Bunter]

That's enough for me

 

[Benny Bunter]

Loads of good lines in this.

that crispy crunchy loaf we shall all
eat only in heaven.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Quite Blakean that too (been reading songs of experience today)

 

[luka]

there's moral outrage, it has that in common with Blake.

 

[sufi]

Invention of writing

“Modern man has lost the option of silence. Try halting your sub-vocal speech. Try to achieve even ten seconds of inner silence. You will encounter a resisting organism that forces you to talk. That organism is the word.” William S. Burroughs, The Ticket That Exploded (1962)

 

[sufi]

“Modern man has lost the option of silence. Try halting your sub-vocal speech. Try to achieve even ten seconds of inner silence. You will encounter a resisting organism that forces you to talk. That organism is the word.” William S. Burroughs, The Ticket That Exploded (1962)

got that from twitter btw

 

[craner]

Blogging Pound’s The Cantos: Canto LV (Plus, What Do Ezra Pound, Robert Howard, J.R.R. Tolkien, H.P. Lovecraft, and Sun Ra Have In Common?)​

Blogging Pound’s The Cantos: Canto LV (Plus, What Do Ezra Pound, Robert Howard, J.R.R. Tolkien, H.P. Lovecraft, and Sun Ra Have In Common?)

This post is one in a series of readings I’m posting of each poem in Ezra Pound’s The Cantos, a few at a time. The readings are atypical, for reasons made clear in my first post in…

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This is very, very good. Nice find.

 

[woops]

as i've got nothing to add to the discussion here's a photo of the title page from Kitchen Poems featuring a well Marxist and cryptic diagram

 

[Benny Bunter]

This is very, very good. Nice find.

Yeah, just read it and really enjoyed the writing even though I skipped the Chinese Cantos, hate Tolkien and haven't read a word of Conan, or Lovecraft.

 

[craner]

Yeah, just read it and really enjoyed the writing even though I skipped the Chinese Cantos, hate Tolkien and haven't read a word of Conan, or Lovecraft.

I hate all that stuff too, but I thought the comparisons were legitimate and creative.

 

[luka]

all that stuff is cool but i thought the writing was poor and the point tenuous in the extreme

 

[luka]

Jack Law's Lord of the Rings Thread.

let's give him what he wants.

www.dissensus.com

 

[luka]

Merv - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[luka]

as i've got nothing to add to the discussion here's a photo of the title page from Kitchen Poems featuring a well Marxist and cryptic diagram

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@mixed_biscuits do you mind explaining this to us, ta.

 

[craner]

all that stuff is cool but i thought the writing was poor and the point tenuous in the extreme

Not as good as mine, eh?

 

[luka]

no, craner, not as good as yours!

 

[thirdform]

yeah, look, i dont think it matters. he just thinks the world is fucked up and unfair and thats something we can all agree with the marxists on.

Well of course you would say that. Britain has no national intellectual culture after all, only anthropological and literary culture.

@suspended gus actually has you lot banged to rights here, he has Parsonian sociology in America, you don't.

 

[thirdform]

The british aversion to a totalised theory of society, of the obsession with discreetness comes out of the fact that our industrial middle class never really deposed the old agrarian aristocracy. Hence Britain has never needed to elaborate a theory of how capitalist society works. Which is why marxism is erroneously conceived as a moralistic theory.

Take for instance Wittgensteinian linguistic philosophy, it can only ever relate particulars to particulars, it has no real way of historicising the seemingly non-rational, the mystical, except to state that these languages are games with their own internal logics. This is well too vague for things and begs the question: what structures the structures?