wild greens
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Gary Neville will be taking a run at it within a year or two
Not at all. Corbyn's policies were popular. Corbyn was not. Seems pretty reasonable to me that someone without whatever qualities it was that turned voters off Corbyn, but with most of the same policies, would probably be a pretty popular politician.
The quality that turned voters off Corbyn was a mass front page campaign by the right wing media to portray every little thing he did as evidence of ultimate evil, reinforced by MPs in his own party lining up to undermine him at every opportunity, boosted uncritically by the broadcast media, and endless critical opinion pieces by the "liberal" commentariat. And that was just the first two years. After that they got serious.
The quality that turned them off Corbyn was a mild form of democratic socialism, which would have applied to anyone on the left.
The quality that turned voters off Corbyn was a mass front page campaign by the right wing media to portray every little thing he did as evidence of ultimate evil, reinforced by MPs in his own party lining up to undermine him at every opportunity, boosted uncritically by the broadcast media, and endless critical opinion pieces by the "liberal" commentariat. And that was just the first two years. After that they got serious.
The quality that turned them off Corbyn was a mild form of democratic socialism, which would have applied to anyone on the left.
I thought you'd sworn off replying to this thread?you literally didnt read what was written tea you illiterate!
That makes no sense at all. Why would people dislike Corbyn for being a social democrat, but like his social-democratic policies?
you literally didnt read what was written tea you illiterate!
We all should.I thought you'd sworn off replying to this thread?
There was a campaign against him that focused on stupid trivialities like his response to the national anthem but most MPs disliked him cos of his history which is a long list of support for anti-Western causes. You can't have that guy and his associates in charge of a major Western nation.
I'll take any compliment I can get these days.You sound like a CIA asset now.
It's the same with being anti-American, you can say the Empire is so fucked it deserves to die by any means necessary (see Luke's thread). I get that. It's just when people say Corbyn didn't do that, didn't say that, didn't mean it that i get pissed.at least danny has a sane coherent logical poistion. uk interests are identical with the interests with the empire and its continuing military and economic dominance. our security and prosperity depends on it and all moral qualms are secondary to that. thats not a mad position.
I see you're still banging on about that article whose entire thrust you completely misconstrued, to the point of insisting it said almost the direct opposite of what it actually said.most of us had never really seen what it looks like when the entire system unifies and goes into attack mode becasue the stakes had always been so low before.