Leo
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yeah, with rare exceptions in certain cities we don't have those here. we have shitty frat boy bars that hold occasional "reggae nights"
yeah, with rare exceptions in certain cities we don't have those here. we have shitty frat boy bars that hold occasional "reggae nights"
Yeah, with a bunch of reggae nerds in the mix. My mate Ritchie has run some amazing nights like this (though he's a Sikh, go figure). Tunes here:
Asher G, featured on this show, probably has one of the best reggae collections in the country (and thus the world).
Tommy Rockashoka. Ritchie has had him over a few times. Has some ludicrous next level collection. He beat Penny (RIP) in that clash though, even though Penny had better records, Penny wasn't really wired to play for a crowd.
The one I recall was down Old Street, that bar on the corner?Looking at that footage is making me kick myself about the amount of great nights I've missed 'cos I simply haven't been arsed. Lockdown has made things like that seem a bit sweeter.
hard techno and darker hardcore nights def cater to a more grown up crowd who is done and dusted with the more exuberant/populist end of raving. I used to be quite young when i used to go house of god when i was 18-19-20. Stuck out like a sore thumb, but the music was just so much better than the boring vocal house/deep tech/uk bass the london youth nights had on tap.
i was at this night, it was their 20th birthday, i can hardly remember getting back to surrey but anyhow what a fucking blinding set, you just don't get the kids really abusing their equipment, the working class furies only really still survive in old gits, the new generation approaches music with new labourite values.
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i was at this night, it was their 20th birthday, i can hardly remember getting back to surrey but anyhow what a fucking blinding set, you just don't get the kids really abusing their equipment, the working class furies only really still survive in old gits, the new generation approaches music with new labourite values.
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i also think youth culture is overrated. i mean, we romanticise all of it, from punk to rave, but then that begs the question, why are people who keep the flame after they die, the most outsider people?
It's like that Japanese bloke Danny talks about here, I doubt most London Jamaicans would give a foggiest about him, and similarly I tend to know about hardcore records that most ravers simply didn't/don't care about.
yeah you can be like ok it was just a snapshot of a time etc but surely we're on here because these youth cultures tend to lead more interesting halflives after they die? Half life like in Philip K Dick being key here. Not alive enough to get jacked off of (a la squarepusher) but not dead enough like ragtime.
It's like that Japanese bloke Danny talks about here, I doubt most London Jamaicans would give a foggiest about him, and similarly I tend to know about hardcore records that most ravers simply didn't/don't care about.
yeah you can be like ok it was just a snapshot of a time etc but surely we're on here because these youth cultures tend to lead more interesting halflives after they die? Half life like in Philip K Dick being key here. Not alive enough to get jacked off of (a la squarepusher) but not dead enough like ragtime.
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a lot of questions here but the main impetus was, maybe not is youth culture overrated but at least recognising that it's not for us and wondering why we don't have anything that IS for us. A field of investigation and attention and work which is age appropriate. Not as nostalgia but as an active concern.
The guy who Tommy clashed with was a good example of what you're talking. Penny Reel (a pseudonym -based on an Eric Morris tune) - he was a Jewish guy from Stamford Hill who'd been into reggae all of his life, picking up the early ska singles as a teenage mod and going onto become a legendary reggae journalist for the NME in the 70s. Reading his old pieces still gives me the feels. In later years, he was still out, schooling my mate and clashing with Japanman. He had huge huge respect (from people who knew who he was) for sticking with the scene throughout his lifetime.
RIP Penny. One of the unsung heros of Jamacian music in the UK.
RIP Penny. One of the unsung heros of Jamacian music in the UK.
i went to a few of those a love from outer space nights, the place before phonox. the drop wasit? can't remember the name.
good times though i wish they would have played some more proper chug new beat filth.
God thinking about it the beginnings of the 2010s were so fucking boring for a part-urban-part-suburban youth like myself. post-dubstep and deep tech. Maybe Trilliam enjoyed deeptech clubbing but I need my music to cary interest for me, otherwise I'd rather socialise in a pub and beat the shit of a patriotic spurs goon.
North London lot are real diggers in that respect. My parents live close to Stamford hill. Funny thing i was listening to a happy hardcore pirate radio rip a few weeks ago and the lad was giving a shout out to mill hill. I have a freak FM tape where they give a shout to fracture and neptune (most probably the later drumfunk/breakbeat dnb revivalist pair) and the barnet massive. Could hardly imagine anything like that today.
Are appropriate: is that why everyone loves basic channel? I don't understand the appeal myself but maybe it's that thing kode9 was on about, with regard to dubstep, it's slow but you fill it in.
Regarding discos for crumbles, I went to a rockabilly night a few years ago in Nottingham and was quite surprised at what a scene it was. But I don't think any of this is what you mean is it? Cos that was all nostalgia, reaching back in time for your teenage, rather than age appropriate.
Regarding discos for crumbles, I went to a rockabilly night a few years ago in Nottingham and was quite surprised at what a scene it was. But I don't think any of this is what you mean is it? Cos that was all nostalgia, reaching back in time for your teenage, rather than age appropriate.
well yeah that's why i started looking back to the 90s and 80s. it wasn't that nothing was happening, but what was happening for people in the 20s was so fucking dull beyond belief. i mean for the love of god i was hanging out with irritating metalheads called Jake because that was still preferable to going out for drinks with the post-dubstep lot.