Badman Barty's Trip to Trinidad
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The bit at 1:18 in this reminds me of that Latin reggaeton type stuff which was popular in my Kurdish village in 2004. Speedy - sientello etc.
Quite far away from the militancy of ja, even in them days. This music, despite the subject matter has an access all ages universalism to it. You could imagine your nan singing some of these songs as she tucks her grandson to bed. The gun talk just seems to be a default of every day existence, it's neither fetishised nor necessarily glamourised (nor even) reviled. It isn't even all that central, it only serves to act as lyrical matter for the harmonic content
This one as well. Charmingly innocent sing along with yer mates music with the johnny come latelies. everyone's welcome, you don't need to be a serious brother or sister.
Quite far away from the militancy of ja, even in them days. This music, despite the subject matter has an access all ages universalism to it. You could imagine your nan singing some of these songs as she tucks her grandson to bed. The gun talk just seems to be a default of every day existence, it's neither fetishised nor necessarily glamourised (nor even) reviled. It isn't even all that central, it only serves to act as lyrical matter for the harmonic content
This one as well. Charmingly innocent sing along with yer mates music with the johnny come latelies. everyone's welcome, you don't need to be a serious brother or sister.
I think we discussed this before but when Russ did this kind of thing with Gun lean we all could not stand it on this forum. There is an exoticism which as a man of firm consistencies I tend to be a tad uncomfortable with. Not the exoticism per se, but the differing standards we apply to our own and those outside our purview. Theoretically we should be able to appreciate Gun Lean as a good pop song. Theoretically.
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But then that lack of consistency (maybe inherent to being a primarily pop music fan) is why I'm not a poptimist. it was Barty who did a good post about it here...
I think because for me pop music is so highly associated with the BBC - radio 1 and capital FM when I was growing up that I have no real sense of how to adapt it to the youtube and spotify age. More sound-collage, more techy and technical music has a roadmap embedded in it. I'm able to immerse and explore the permutations of a sound. Given that today the most interesting developments in pop music aren't fueled by the radio it becomes impossible for me to adapt in the same way. You need to big into the instagram and influencer craze. So when I browse through this stuff I'm not approaching it like a true urban pop fan. I don't think that should make my perspective invalid though. I'm not an indie rocker or an idm boffin.
I think because for me pop music is so highly associated with the BBC - radio 1 and capital FM when I was growing up that I have no real sense of how to adapt it to the youtube and spotify age. More sound-collage, more techy and technical music has a roadmap embedded in it. I'm able to immerse and explore the permutations of a sound. Given that today the most interesting developments in pop music aren't fueled by the radio it becomes impossible for me to adapt in the same way. You need to big into the instagram and influencer craze. So when I browse through this stuff I'm not approaching it like a true urban pop fan. I don't think that should make my perspective invalid though. I'm not an indie rocker or an idm boffin.
Oh and of course there's nothing wrong with that. But familiarity breeds contempt and so on.
It might be that but that song indicates something important for me, the white stripesification of Timbaland. @blissblogger now there's something you can tear down because i haven't listened to a single white stripes song in my life.