Badman Barty's Trip to Trinidad
- Thread starter luka
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no, ive said what ive had to say. You can't criticise retro trends in garage or jungle then cling to the retro or derivative in dancehall or rnb.
London is sadly no longer the epicentre for music. The tories killed that.
And the internet has truly deterritorialised music from being tied to a locality. For all yer banging on about Deleuze you can't see they were market fetishists and would have embraced the internet with open arms.
Case and point, that tune. you just have a Jamaican guy to sing it with the same production and it will fit like a glove. modular.
Right. which makes the ideological polarisations on the forum look a bit old hat, except do you really think you'll be listening to this music in 5 years time? Yeah its nice, but i can't even be bothered with bad and bougie nowadays.
I mean you could say the same about post-dubstep.
luka
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Yeah we've discussed this countless times
I would agree that there is probably more good music than ever, in its production, the placement of sounds, the way the reverbs and autotunes are used. Good music is not really something I care for though. What's so enthralling about the good? Something either has to make you an evangelist or make you shudder in disgust. Good is the mean average, the most broadly indifferent.
Benny Bunter
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I've never really taken fully to any forms of trap or drill that much, barring a few exceptions, but I do like it a lot more with Jamaican (and now Trini) voices over it. I think its main appeal to me is probably that simple. I rate this and JA dancehall over US rap personally, but maybe thats just me.
Cecil Rhodes would agree.
luka
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Well that's reassuring.
Nah I just object to kitsch as a whole. It's why I hate all that screachy dnb or a lot of death metal.
Correct this is an admirable project. What we need to do is pligh Benny away from his lush resorts in Sivilla and conscript him into the army. only from the ruins of his destiny will something truly great arise, that transcends the virtue of being good, that contains the sublime and disgust in equal measure.
I think what tips the 'good' as you describe it into 'great' for me is that I can associate this music with a specific world that I've inhabited ie going to the white hotel or seeing Dean blunt live countless times. I listen to certain songs and get excited cos it reminds me of certain things.
I mean what else would ever make you think anything is great?
Exhiliration and evangelism. More than 94 jungle this was in 92-93 hardcore. even the pretty naff piano happy stuff. It's being taken into a realm of alternative elves and gremlins. non-stop vertigo, spinning round and round. consciousness obliteration, the merger with a collective intelligence. Reaching the Godly heights.