the kantbot nexus

[catalog]

it's like that article that about jesus that version posted. you want to cast the first stone, but you aren't brave enough to own it plainly.

 

[luka]

becuase its not a lie, its a joke

 

[luka]

and this is what i mean about not being able to read and this is why it makes life so difficult for you

 

[luka]

the last time i used the phrase, as far as i can remember, was to say, in reference to the Thought of Stan, 'a lot of people say it is some form of Nazism'.
that is not becasue i am seriously trying to convince people that 'a lot of people' say that Stan is a Nazi, its actually just a joke.

 

[catalog]

but jokes should be funny and work on the principle of surprise. you just keep doing it all the time. it's become boring. predictable.

 

[luka]

the joke is based on a)calling Stan a Nazi and b)what you rightly identify as a disavowel. where you go wrong is in assuming this is meant to be a sleight of hand and remain undetected when in fact it is meant to be upfront and part of the explicit meaning

 

[luka]

these are not particularly sophisticated concepts, but they do require a base level of literacy.

 

[catalog]

it was funny the first 5 times, now it's boring.

 

[luka]

i disagree. i think that, as with a lot of simple jokes, the more it is repeated the funnier it becomes.

 

[luka]

also the essay about the first stone came from vimothy.

 

[luka]

and for the comparison to work i would have to be trying to create a pile on, a public stoning, which is very clearly not the case.
in the example above what is being leveraged are two caricatures, a caricature of Stan as Nazi (which dates back to the horrified
reaction to his first ever post) and a caricature of me as tinpot tyrant.

 

[linebaugh]

but does he mean it? my guess is, probably not most of the time. it's more a succession of dramatic teenage poses. which i quite like. he doesn't want to be normal. but to stand out on twitter you have to be insane.

He does it all day though. What makes teens capricious are the idle periods. That's primarily what I meant by insane- his positions are peculiar of course but its the speed and consistency he blasts them thats insane

 

[luka]

thats true. good point. it is relentless. but i guess you maybe get trapped into that once you have built a profile, something very tenuous and built on air, that you might one day be able to convert into appreciable income, but for now you must work full time, for free

 

[luka]

i heard a bit of an interview with him where he said he had sold 250 copies of his first book, which is by no
means negligable, (its a lot more than ive sold or even printed of any of mine for instance) but its not an income

 

[catalog]

and for the comparison to work i would have to be trying to create a pile on, a public stoning, which is very clearly not the case.
in the example above what is being leveraged are two caricatures, a caricature of Stan as Nazi (which dates back to the horrified
reaction to his first ever post) and a caricature of me as tinpot tyrant.

i think you are trying to create conditions for a pile on, but doing it in a sneaky way where you make out like you're not. let's analyse it the next time you do it.

 

[luka]

why dont you use examples alerady extant? i might change my behaviour in future so as to negate your thesis, 'in a sneaky way'

 

[luka]

here you go, not ideal, but it works

Search results for query: 'lot of people'

 

[catalog]

so this for example

this is a good line. i know a lot of people here really, really hate version but i'd stick up for him, provisionally, to some extent, based on the odd good line like this.

ok, so maybe it's a joke, but maybe it's also a bit hurtful? maybe being hurtful is not your intention at all, in which case fair enough. you would say you are being funny, i would say you are not.

 

[luka]

version needs encouragement

 

[catalog]

this search is better. you say "lot of people" loads

Search results for query: "lot of people"