Transfer Phenomena

[sus]

I think so, like you are in each other's orbit, affecting each other's reality.

Thinking about how dogs and their owners famously start looking like one another

 

[Clinamenic]

Even bearing a similar aura.

 

[sus]

Oh yeah, this definitely happens. Trying to think of examples that don’t make me sound completely unhinged, but you can cycle through multiple writers in a short space of time and feel a shift in your mindset, mood and perception of your surroundings with each switch.

I remember once getting very neurotic after watching a Woody Allen film for the first time... and I'm never neurotic

 

[sus]

bonus Reddit testimonials that are more in line with this emotional/mood transfer:

If I read from the perspective of a scared, paranoid girl, I'll be shrinking back from things for a while. While other times I'll be reading from the perspective of a conqueror, and be more confident. I have a lot of empathy and really get into what I'm reading/watching

i've always been extremely influenced by some of the books i read and love. and i've noticed that it's not just my internal monologue that changes: its also in the way i might talk to other people, my passions and hobbies and even how i perceive my life. for a while, i subconsciously act as if i'm a character in the book i'm reading, as to live inside of it– romanticizing everything.

 

[sus]

I think that these afterglows/transfer effects really illustrate the potential games have for transforming public understanding and conceptualization—both through sets of metaphors and ways of thinking

 

[Clinamenic]

I remember once getting very neurotic after watching a Woody Allen film for the first time... and I'm never neurotic

Same. Watching Friends and steering your sense of humor into Chandler territory. Certain vocal inflections, like what you say in the OP.

 

[Clinamenic]

I think that these afterglows/transfer effects really illustrate the potential games have for transforming public understanding and conceptualization—both through sets of metaphors and ways of thinking

Especially when many people couldn't even attribute these beliefs to a narrative to begin with, but are more or less cultivated within the context of this media. The stories we derive or infer from our understanding of our history.

 

[martin]

I remember once getting very neurotic after watching a Woody Allen film for the first time... and I'm never neurotic

Reading "Flow My Tears..." by PKD had a similar effect on me - one of my most paranoid reading experiences (bar the completely shit 'epilogue' page...though it does help you to snap out of the spell, I guess?).

Also the bit in the film "Wir Kinden vom Bahnhof Zoo" where she's desperately trying to sell her once beloved Bowie albums - find that more disturbing than the decaying junkie zombie shots. Blunt breezeblock example of the death of childhood dreams.

Does anyone get this sensation from music, though?

 

[version]

Reading "Flow My Tears..." by PKD had a similar effect on me - one of my most paranoid reading experiences (bar the completely shit 'epilogue' page...though it does help you to snap out of the spell, I guess?).

I had a similar experience with Valis. That and Less than Zero are the two that come to mind re: books really exerting their influence on my mood and thinking. I read the latter in a couple of afternoons and it sucked the life out of me for a day or two.

 

[sus]

Reading "Flow My Tears..." by PKD had a similar effect on me - one of my most paranoid reading experiences (bar the completely shit 'epilogue' page...though it does help you to snap out of the spell, I guess?).

Also the bit in the film "Wir Kinden vom Bahnhof Zoo" where she's desperately trying to sell her once beloved Bowie albums - find that more disturbing than the decaying junkie zombie shots. Blunt breezeblock example of the death of childhood dreams.

Does anyone get this sensation from music, though?

Probably this question's best aimed at those who regularly produce, consciously and unconsciously, lines of music the same way we all tend to produce speech and verbal thought—when you start listening to a lot of X, do you start getting those influences in your music even without deliberately trying to bring them in? My guess it ye

 

[sufi]

wallking down the street one day i had to suppress a sudden urge to check for hidden doors in an alcove behind a telephone box was the sign i'd played enough doom

 

[IdleRich]

Probably this question's best aimed at those who regularly produce, consciously and unconsciously, lines of music the same way we all tend to produce speech and verbal thought—when you start listening to a lot of X, do you start getting those influences in your music even without deliberately trying to bring them in? My guess it ye

Certainly those early BEE ones I found very depressing.... they affected my mood, state of mind or whatever than the more controversial gross-out ones for which he became more famous. Of course you are gonna feel bad when you read about a live rat being stuck in someone's cunt, but when everyone is rich, beautifull and perfect and yet still more unhappy than the most horribly tortured victim in AP, that's when you start to wonder whether anybody can ever be happy anywhere.
Though I take Corpsey's point from the other day about whether rich LA ennui can ever compete with the boredom you get growing up in a dead end English backwater. I understand that they are remaking This Country set in a US trailer park or something, but I don't see that that could ever have the sheer emptiness of the village where the original was set... which, as I have previously said, was looks as though it was filmed in the village where I grew up. I will be interested to see if the new version is any good, in fact that's not the question I want answered, rather I want to know if that same kind of boredom exists elsewhere and can be captured on telly.

 

[Clinamenic]

@IdleRich do you think the internet changes that? Perhaps to those who have been around before the internet, it may make some impact, but I mean to those who are born into the internet.

As the social environment moves more and more into the digital, might it make less of a difference, in terms of boredom, where one is from?

 

[IdleRich]

@IdleRich do you think the internet changes that? Perhaps to those who have been around before the internet, it may make some impact, but I mean to those who are born into the internet.

As the social environment moves more and more into the digital, might it make less of a difference, in terms of boredom, where one is from?

y totally off the top of the head guess is that having the internet, if you have the imagination to use it, does open all these doors and give you all these opportunities to learn and explore scenes and follow one thing after another and so on... but at the very same time it hammers home all the stuff that you really can't ACTUALLY DO in Uffington however much internet you have and that probably at least cancels out the gain. Sure you can learn about almost anything that happened, you can find out how one thing links to another and one person influenced another and so on... but at the very same time you know that not that far away from you other people just like you are going out and dancing and having sex and taking drugs and eating impossibly exotic food like kebabs and, I dunno, just casually doing things on a daily basis that are so far away from being available to you that they might as well be on the other side of Mars. And that is a little frustrating.

 

[hmg]

Having looked him up now, yeah they seem similar.

A Rube Goldberg machine is like a US copy of a Heath Robinson contraption right?

It was part of the secret technology transfer from Britain that ensured the USA's entry into WW2.

 

[luka]

Gus, do you invent these funny pseudo-science terms yourself and if not where do you pick them up from?
status halo. privelege icon. high-value sex object. transfer phenomen. etc its an interesting quirk of yours,
this personal white lab coat terminolgy

 

[woops]

y totally off the top of the head guess is that having the internet, if you have the imagination to use it, does open all these doors and give you all these opportunities to learn and explore scenes and follow one thing after another and so on... but at the very same time it hammers home all the stuff that you really can't ACTUALLY DO in Uffington however much internet you have and that probably at least cancels out the gain. Sure you can learn about almost anything that happened, you can find out how one thing links to another and one person influenced another and so on... but at the very same time you know that not that far away from you other people just like you are going out and dancing and having sex and taking drugs and eating impossibly exotic food like kebabs and, I dunno, just casually doing things on a daily basis that are so far away from being available to you that they might as well be on the other side of Mars. And that is a little frustrating.

Great post, England is shit

 

[luka]

i remember going to new zealand in 1999 and meeting people who had pored over so many magazines (this was before the internet had any actual informaiton on it) and so on that they knew more about the club scene and like, jungle music, than i did

 

[luka]

rich is right though the main point of the internet should be about meeting people in real life, eg, corpsey coming and having a lager in greenwich.

 

[luka]

this is the whole point of the internet. not being on the internet. having real life experiences the internet has facilitated

Luke I'm outside your flat now let me in

Let me in please

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