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i hate the way google, youtube etc is censored now. you search for a conspiracy and the only results it is willing to give you are 'debunkings'. its made the internet feel so boring and paternalistic.

I hate the way my thread's been turned into another stupid conspiracy one.
 

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Dissensus's own strange attractor is that every thread ends up being about conspiracies, wanking, or both.

I post a great book about an Italian terrorist and the subsequent three pages of discussion are dedicated to a critical examination of the 'Tom Hanks is a pedo' cohort.

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Read Stuart Christie's book on Stefano Delle Chiaie today, Stefano Delle Chiaie: Portrait of a Black Terrorist. It's a very brief overview of Gladio, Condor, P2 and the rest and he says himself there are things he just doesn't know or can't corroborate, but I enjoyed it and found it convincing.

It's only about 80 pages and it's knocking about online, if anyone's interested.

Stefano Delle Chiaie: Portrait of a Black Terrorist (1984)

Of the five people named as suspects by the Italian judge investigating the outrage at Bologna, one stands out from all the rest: Stefano Delle Chiaie. Master organiser of neo-fascist terror, or someone who has been deliberately set up as such by other more shadowy figures, the name of Delle Chiaie is inextricably linked with just about every major right-wing scandal and terrorist outrage to have rocked Italy during the past two decades. The history of Delle Chiaie is the history of Nazism in our world today.

Through it we see neo-fascist terrorist organisations in their true role: that of "plausibly deniable" agents of an inner oligarchic power sphere which sets itself above all law and morality.

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Reading a book where this bloke's one of the interviewees. It's structured as two halves: the first covers what actually happened as far as evidence went at the time of publication, the second covers the Italian right's 'victim narrative' and denial.

He ended up looking like Robert Blake's 'Mystery Man' in Lost Highway. Horrible, creepy, little bastard.

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This is the book.

Italian Neofascism: The Strategy of Tension and the Politics of Nonreconciliation​

During the Cold War Italy witnessed the existence of an anomalous version of a civil conflict, defined as a 'creeping' or a 'low-intensity' civil war. Political violence escalated, including bomb attacks against civilians, starting with a massacre in Milan, on 12 December 1969, and culminating with the massacre in Bologna, on 2 August 1980. Making use of the literature on national reconciliation and narrative psychology theory, this book examines the fight over the 'judicial' and the 'historical' truth in Italy today, through a contrasting analysis of judicial findings and the 'narratives of victimhood' prevalent among representatives of both the post- and the neo-fascist right.

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Unsurprising, but it's helpful when they admit to it.


A notorious former commander of Colombia’s largest paramilitary group has revealed new details of how rightwing death squads worked side by side with the country’s business, military and political elite to sow terror in the countryside and wipe out leftwing insurgencies.

Salvatore Mancuso told Colombia’s peace tribunal this week that state institutions were not only complicit in the expansion of the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC) but actively coordinated with them, giving orders to wipe out anyone suspected of aligning with communist rebels.

“This phenomenon of paramilitarism came from the state,” Mancuso told the Special Jurisdiction for Peace (JEP) on a video link from the US where he was extradited on drugs charges in 2008.

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Mancuso’s testimony is vital to understand not just the past but the present as rightwing drug-trafficking organisations such as the Gulf Clan, which was founded by former AUC members who refused to disarm, continue to terrorise the countryside, picking off community leaders who oppose them.
 
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