luka
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No it's definitely CranerStuck without a tangible enemy.
No it's definitely CranerStuck without a tangible enemy.
No it's definitely Craner
It was inevitable Version, the thread title was a red rag to him.
Third could you reiterate your point from upthread?
It was inevitable Version, the thread title was a red rag to him.
Third could you reiterate your point from upthread?
Often the fairly well off middle classes have a tendancy to conspiracism. All bourgeois sociology will try and tell you it's a feeling of a loss of identity, of suspician, of feeling alienated, which is all correct, but then begs the question ... why is it the fairly well educated, the enlightened (if you will/those with heads screwed on) who succumb to this nauseating phenomenon? The illuminati shit is hardly something that the absolutely impoverished bang on about on the internet. I've thrown the gauntlet down for craner.
To be fair, it's prompted a decent discussion which has swung back round to exactly what I was trying to do with the thread in the first place, so it's worked out okay.It was inevitable Version, the thread title was a red rag to him.
Fuck 'em. Who cares. I've explained myself and my interestsI assume he's joking when he says that sort of thing, but I guess you can only joke about something so many times before people start to wonder. This is also a public forum and people who don't know him might read that stuff and not realise it's tongue-in-cheek.
he only says that cos it's been exposedThis is the wedge I was trying to drive between the two threads and which Luke kicked out earlier. As Craner said of Gladio, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's the history of a conspiracy.
That was the big point of disagreement between us, as far as I could tell. That he would only entertain things which had already been proven whereas I was happier to speculate.he only says that cos it's been exposed
alsoThis is the wedge I was trying to drive between the two threads and which Luke kicked out earlier. As Craner said of Gladio, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's the history of a conspiracy.
Hmmm.... interesting. Do you have an answer, I don't want to come up with a pat one off the top of my head.
You won't get anywhere with them as I've carefully and patiently explained.That was the big point of disagreement between us, as far as I could tell. That he would only entertain things which had already been proven whereas I was happier to speculate.
I think if people engage with more and more of this sort of history then it becomes increasingly difficult for them to accept the present at face value. You'd have to believe all of the systems and mechanisms and organisations and forces and beliefs which led to the proven conspiracies you can easily read about just disappeared one day and nothing like that ever happened again. An idea about as ridiculous as believing every single scientist is lying about the Earth being flat.You won't get anywhere with them as I've carefully and patiently explained.
Ive got a book that makes the argument that conspiracy culture starts with the French Revolution as it goes.