Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
P.P.S. @Mr. Tea have you bought yourself the latest booster yet.
No, because I'm not the droid-esque germ paranoiac you've persistently tried to paint me as, and because the pandemic is over, in large part due to the vaccines you despise.

Nice strawman about vaccines being "largely safe", btw. No medicine is guaranteed 100% safe for 100% of people. They are approved for use if they're shown to have a benefit that significantly outweighs the risk, which vaccines do.

I haven't noticed you banging on and on for hundreds of pages about any actual pharmaceutical scandals, such as Purdue pushing opioid painkillers they knew to be dangerously addictive and which have caused orders of magnitude more death and suffering than even the absolute upper limit on any and all covid vaccines put together. Wonder why that is?
 

mixed_biscuits

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No, because I'm not the droid-esque germ paranoiac you've persistently tried to paint me as, and because the pandemic is over, in large part due to the vaccines you despise.

Nice strawman about vaccines being "largely safe", btw. No medicine is guaranteed 100% safe for 100% of people. They are approved for use if they're shown to have a benefit that significantly outweighs the risk, which vaccines do.

I haven't noticed you banging on and on for hundreds of pages about any actual pharmaceutical scandals, such as Purdue pushing opioid painkillers they knew to be dangerously addictive and which have caused orders of magnitude more death and suffering than even the absolute upper limit on any and all covid vaccines put together. Wonder why that is?
Just get the damn shot. It's largely not gonna kill you.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps

The researchers said the findings translate to “an extremely small absolute risk” of acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (0.78 per million vaccine doses) and of transverse myelitis (1.82 per million vaccine doses).


@mixed_biscuits Would you take a drug that halved your risk of premature death from heart disease but also doubled your risk of death by tiger attack?
 

luka

Well-known member
its brilliant how the two thickest people on the forum have this long running double act. dont they call it being co-dependent?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
its brilliant how the two thickest people on the forum have this long running double act. dont they call it being co-dependent?
Being called thick by someone who once thought (and maybe still thinks?) there was anything remotely good about Russell Brand is pretty hilarious.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
its brilliant how the two thickest people on the forum have this long running double act. dont they call it being co-dependent?
it's like an eternal feedback loop, i wish we could somehow extract the energy that goes into it and power let's say a lamp in my living room or something like that. @Clinamenic you reckon something like that is possible?
 

mixed_biscuits

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Let's make a pact. I'll do that while you deliberately infect yourself with ebola and rely on your natural immunity.
The natural immunity trope was because even the worst Covid strains had a very low fatality rate for most people. This doesn't apply to ebola, you dimbecile.
 

mixed_biscuits

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its brilliant how the two thickest people on the forum have this long running double act. dont they call it being co-dependent?
Even the two thickest people are about a billion times more qualified than you, as if we're all living in Topsy Turvy Land.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
The natural immunity trope was because even the worst Covid strains had a very low fatality rate for most people. This doesn't apply to ebola, you dimbecile.
The worst strains had a CFR of about 4%, which I'd call pretty bad:


To say nothing of the far higher chance of not dying but being left with debilitating symptoms for months or years afterwards, and potentially forever (a friend of mine is still suffering from them).

Compare that to rates of severe abreaction to the commonly used vaccines that are in the low single figures per million doses administered.

I know maths isn't your strong point (I'm still chuckling over the time you couldn't work out a percentage), but surely even you can see there's a big difference there?
 

mixed_biscuits

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The worst strains had a CFR of about 4%, which I'd call pretty bad:


To say nothing of the far higher chance of not dying but being left with debilitating symptoms for months or years afterwards, and potentially forever (a friend of mine is still suffering from them).

Compare that to rates of severe abreaction to the commonly used vaccines that are in the low single figures per million doses administered.

I know maths isn't your strong point (I'm still chuckling over the time you couldn't work out a percentage), but surely even you can see there's a big difference there?
The CFR varied widely depending on age.

I know more people messed up by the vax than you do messed up by Covid, which means that your stats are rubbish. If I'm looking out the window and can see it's raining don't try to tell me it's dry - Mahatma Gandhi
 

mixed_biscuits

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A lot of people try to excuse their own academic underachievement by telling themselves oh, I would have got those grades or into there but I just couldn't be arsed. Newsflash: there are lots of people with those grades who couldn't be arsed also.
 

sus

Moderator
@yyaldrin @luka
What are the best moments of this thread? Now that the pandemic's winding down I think we should compile them for posterity, so people don't have to sort through a thousand middling ragebait entries to find the funniest ones
 

0bleak

Well-known member
I'm still hobbling around because of the damn thing.
Not to stir shit up...................... BUT, did anyone have really bad reactions to any of their shots?
Second and Third shots, I felt like I was going to die, and after my third shot where I was shaking so uncontrollably that I had to leave the restaurant where I was with family in town visiting for the holidays, both of my lower legs (along with my feet) swelled.
My right lower leg and foot is still swollen to this day, and I have to wear special shoes like those people that have diabetes.
I've seen doctors about it a few different times and even had X-Rays, but they can't figure it out.
There was no way that I was gonna get more shots after the third time.
 
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0bleak

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^also bad reactions for the next few days on my 2nd and 3rd shots
I had a headache, alternating fevers and chills, my left arm was in a lot of pain, and my whole body ached and I was so, so tired.
AND my motor skills (fine and gross) got worse which isn't great for someone already with my level of NVLD.
 
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