IdleRich
IdleRich
I've heard this one and, yeah, it's more crazy than 50ft Hose.
I do like Red The Sign Post... both versions even.
Nuggets/Pebbles/BackFromTheGrave etc tunes that are nothing like Beatles
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I've heard this one and, yeah, it's more crazy than 50ft Hose.
I do like Red The Sign Post... both versions even.
IdleRich
IdleRich
One time at that night at The Buffalo Bar Joe from The Horrors was DJ-ing and he played this and one of the punters kinda was leaning across the deck to sort of high five him or something and he jumped it - he was not best pleased.
IdleRich
IdleRich
One time at that night at The Buffalo Bar Joe from The Horrors was DJ-ing and he played this and one of the punters kinda was leaning across the deck to sort of high five him or something and he jumped it (an original) with is arm - Joe was not best pleased.
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Benny Bunter
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To me, apart from the link wray fuzz monster lineage which I rate very highly, most of this stuff, if it isn't stonesy/UK invasion sounding it's taking 13th floor elevators as year zero. But the elevators are themselves very stonesy sounding to me too so I dunno. I think my bias is that I prefer the very early UK beat groups to the more sloppy/soppy US gear (even the more folk rock stuff has to be traced back to the Beatles ultimately, as well as Dylan, ok). I like the more straightforward tightness of early Beatles, Stones, Who, Kinks, Them, even when they were still more or less covers bands. Maybe it's partly that sharp mod UK sensibility that I like more.
Again, massive generalisations here from a non expert, and I do like a lot of these tunes, but that's my overall position that I doubt I'll ever budge from at this point.
Again, massive generalisations here from a non expert, and I do like a lot of these tunes, but that's my overall position that I doubt I'll ever budge from at this point.
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Benny Bunter
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The problem with the Beatles psychedelic elements, from a garage rock point of view, is that though they were massive innovators of psychedelia in many ways, by the time of revolver and seageant pepper they didn't really have that high energy rnb beat group engine anymore to drive them along, so I suppose the more punky us psych bands have that advantage over them. Plus the Stones' psychedelic output is mostly godawful.
Benny Bunter
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I'll tell you who's a massively underrated UK group - the Downliner's Sect
Benny Bunter
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Pre-VU Reed/Cale song that, weirdly.
Think this thread's proved that the Beatles/Stones were miles behind anyone in the US with access to a guitar, a fuzzbox and a garage between 1964-1969. And as nobody's posted it yet, here's another killer that the Beatles couldn't dream of emulating:
I am really fond of this particular spooky Brit psych song: My god...the spiders are everywhere
I am really fond of this particular spooky Brit psych song: My god...the spiders are everywhere
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IdleRich
IdleRich
I reckon that - now you say it - fuzz garage is an important strand, and once you mention that I feel that there are other strands such as organ bangers and organ swirlers, and so on and so forth. I don't know how many there but I would say that one of them is stuff that sounds like the Stones.
This is often described as the first fuzz record although I'm not sure it's garage
This one is heavy as you like
Thsi is a famous fuzzer
IdleRich
IdleRich
One thing it's proved to me is that there is a lot more love for garage-psych etc on dissensus than I would have ever guessed considering we never talk really talk about it. Some great knowledge being shared.
Another strand is soft psyche. I dig these ones which seem like something DJ Shadow could have come up with
IdleRich
IdleRich
One thing that is sort of noteworthy is that garage tunes are not much sampled in the way that soul, funk, disco etc are. I'm not totally sure why that is... well, it could be cos many of them have drums that are badly produced, out of time or simply not that interesting. So I totally do get why ones fitting that description don't have particularly highly prizeed breaks.
But of course, there are loads of ones that don't fit that description and it sort of feels that people are kinda missing a trick or two somehow.
But let's for a second mention a couple of examples I am aware of...
For example, as soon as you place a throbbing slice of The Haunted's version of I Can Only Give You Everything on to your turntable and rev it up a sample used by Beck jumps right out at you
More obscurely, on the first page of the thread I linked to a number of tunes that I thought were nowt like The Bonles, included amongst them was the Greek Fountains tune An Experimented Terror, a genuniely unique instro of clattering drums, weird noises and not a lot else. I remember playing it oncee to a friend who asked if there were two things playing at once - there weren't, it's just that it sounds like a total mess. And it was sampled by Madlib
Er, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head at 0609 a.m, would be keen to hear of other examples though, surely there must be loads more than that out there.... if you can suggest any please do.
But of course, there are loads of ones that don't fit that description and it sort of feels that people are kinda missing a trick or two somehow.
But let's for a second mention a couple of examples I am aware of...
For example, as soon as you place a throbbing slice of The Haunted's version of I Can Only Give You Everything on to your turntable and rev it up a sample used by Beck jumps right out at you
More obscurely, on the first page of the thread I linked to a number of tunes that I thought were nowt like The Bonles, included amongst them was the Greek Fountains tune An Experimented Terror, a genuniely unique instro of clattering drums, weird noises and not a lot else. I remember playing it oncee to a friend who asked if there were two things playing at once - there weren't, it's just that it sounds like a total mess. And it was sampled by Madlib
Er, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head at 0609 a.m, would be keen to hear of other examples though, surely there must be loads more than that out there.... if you can suggest any please do.
IdleRich
IdleRich
One random curiousity before I go to bed. Del Shannon had a massive hit with Runaway of course, but later in his career, after hits had dried up he decided to have a go at a raw garage rocker and he did it rather successfully. Well, successfully in that it sounded good, sadly not so successfully in terms of sales I believe.
I think it's a great little tune but you can judge for yourselves of course.
I think it's a great little tune but you can judge for yourselves of course.
bassbeyondreason
Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
Armand Schaubroeck did some 70s proto-punk shock rock LPs that are well regarded, but his 60s stuff blows them away:
bassbeyondreason
Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
Into cerebral proto-prog territory here but still with that garage energy:
william_kent
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Young John Watson - Space Guitar ( 1954 )
this seems as good a thread to post this as any - a young Johnny Guitar Watson goes wild in what sounds like a live one take studio freakout, making full use of the primitive delay / reverb, for something recorded in 1954 this sounds years ahead of its time...proto-garage rock?
IdleRich
IdleRich
From Church Mice to Rat Fucker