In Parenthesis and David Jones

[catalog]

There's something about the saturation of words, like a barrage, that I find difficult to chew on. At the same time, maybe that's just because I'm reading a load of quotes out of any context.

 

[catalog]

I know I'm not being very helpful here. But I suppose what I'm saying, in another way, is that with these things, they seem almost beyond any discussion. You read the thing, that's it.

 

[Benny Bunter]

You are shitting up the thread something rotten tbf

 

[catalog]

I'll stop posting anything more here til I've read in parenthesis

 

[luka]

dont bother trying to read it your way too thick

 

[Benny Bunter]

Brilliant bit here about the moonlight:

The rain stopped
She drives swift and immaculate out over, free of these obscuring waters; frets their fringes splendid.
A silver hurrying to silver this waste
silver for bolt-shoulders
silver for butt-heel-irons
silver beams search the interstices, play for breech-blocks underneath the counterfeiting bower-sway; make-believe a silver scar with drenched tree-wound; silver-trace a festooned slack; faery-bright a filigree with gooseberries and picket-irons - grace this mauled earth -
transfigure our infirmity -
shine on us.
I want you to play with
and the stars as well.

 

[luka]

if catalog tried to read that hed be looking at it going i dont get it what does it mean

 

[Benny Bunter]

Love all those compound words he uses

 

[Benny Bunter]

He does bolt together words in quite strange, unnatural and surprising ways

 

[Benny Bunter]

Reads more to me like an Anglo-Saxon Germanic thing coming through rather than Welsh, I dunno I'm not a linguist, but it's a strange mash-up

 

[luka]

he couldnt read or speak or understand welsh in any way so

 

[Benny Bunter]

Yeah, I read that, he read all the Welsh myths in translation and his dad refused to teach him it or something?

 

[luka]

not sure. sounds like his dad was like craner. let that rotten language die.

 

[luka]

i think i might go to the pub and read a bit more of it. ive got a hell shift tomorrow and im dreading it. 6.45-17.30. probably shouldn't drink it'll just make it worse but on the other hand, how can it get any worse.

 

[WashYourHands]

strong dissociative elements, a stepping over chains of words, scragged, huddled and suffocating between earth and sky

 

[Benny Bunter]

I went to the bar with the intention of reading more but I ended up fucking about on here and I've probably had too many beers to carry on properly now. Useful to go back over stuff and type it out though.

 

[luka]

thats why i dont have a smartphone. the only time i can fuck about here is if im at home.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Yeah smartphones are a fucking curse.

Got the day off tomorrow before working all weekend so hopefully I'll make some progress tomoz. Might leave my phone at home (might? Probably won't)

 

[Benny Bunter]

One thing I wondered about, londoners, does any of the cockney they speak in this book still exist today? Or has it been almost totally consigned to history?

 

[luka]

One thing I wondered about, londoners, does any of the cockney they speak in this book still exist today? Or has it been almost totally consigned to history?

Colin at work does a bit. hes 70.