yes you are a trad for wanting to start a family. whether you justify it with which ever mumbo jumbo you've constructed is irrelevant, consciousness of the fact is only post-hoc.
The Feminine Perspective against the Manosphere
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yes you are a trad for wanting to start a family. whether you justify it with which ever mumbo jumbo you've constructed is irrelevant, consciousness of the fact is only post-hoc.
Interesting idea, but I don't see why it matters to my argument. When I talk about trads I just mean masculine men. So it doesn't really matter if I'm a trad in your terms as long as I remain a feminine husband and father.
And Bisquo, where do you get off comparing feminists to racists?!
It seems that you don't think that all of the negative messaging about men and masculinity could have a bad affect on men and their mental health (or you add in some kind of whataboutism, or it doesn't matter because that's not what feminism really is... or doing some kind of other hand-waving it away), or that this could even be a concern worth taking seriously so there is really nothing else more to say about it.
I also kind of feel like we're getting into "No Real Scotsman" territory or something similar.
I also kind of feel like we're getting into "No Real Scotsman" territory or something similar.
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I'm pointing out your strange logic: if something isn't 100% bad then it's fine.
Sure, but then you have no right to contravene the existence of the manosphere and toxic masculine men. It's part of being a democrat after all. You have to be the elitist who tolerates abusers and patriarchal men to represent your interest which has risen above it.
Whereas I can be against the manosphere because I want to abolish the family.
It could harm a man's mental health, but I just don't know what harms it would do. I don't know the facts, so I'm not speaking on that. Besides, if your claim is true, wouldn't all the negative messaging about women produced by sexists harm the mental health of women even more?
I think such arguments are acceptable in this context because women really do face worse problem than men. They certainly face worse issues than just men saying mean things about them.
Why would women acting shitty and misandristic be a part of feminism?
No, I take it seriously. It's just I think this is largely a matter of messaging. So yes, feminists should change their messaging toward men. But men should promote feminine culture, and I argue this is a more substantive issue than just one of presentation.
I don't see how that's true. I've dealt with a number of examples, and I've frequently conceded that people such as you have presented legitimate counter-examples. Can you give an example of an argument of mine that falls victim to this fallacy?
I don't deny their existence, I just criticize them. And yes, I can criticize them while wanting a family because their vision of the family is oppressive, traditional, and misogynistic and totally unlike my vision of the family.
That wasn't the logic. The logic was that feminists and anti-racists hate oppressive systems while bigots really do hate marginalized individuals.
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If this happens too much it will be deemed cultural appropriation and shadow banned.
I've always been in favor of live and let live. You've always been in favor of mass murder.
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@thirdform Are you sterilised?
Wrong because as I've repeatedly said, feminine culture belongs no more to men than it does to women. Everyone can access and contribute to it regardless of their gender. The same isn't true of black culture.
Right lol I was about to say, dude wants our groins to all look like Barbie dolls. Just remember, it's third who wants to cut your dick off, not me!
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You're more culturally black than you are culturally feminine.
Oh sure you can criticise them, but the criticised doesn't need to pay any attention to their critics. You remain trapped in the weapon of criticism, without arriving at the criticism of weapons.
It's not a case of being in favour,You want to keep quacking like a duck. I'm just pursuing your thinking to its logical consequence. You can only contravene the manosphere through force.
You are very childish and naive, like I said, no idea of how change in society takes place.
no I joined the taliban.
Cutting your dick off would be no great loss to the world. A net gain, in fact.
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So those 73 virgins will retain their modesty.