Grime doc on BBC

[craner]

Don't forget Lisa Maffia

 

[Corpsey]

Really resonated with me when someone (Wretch 32?) said that music in the 90s was a lot more fun. Like for example think how not fun dancehall is nowadays (not saying it's not GOOD). OTOH a simplification ofc cos there was plenty of dark music out there. Perhaps the difference now is that the party music is darker too?

I love the sections about jungle and garage in this doc, I wish someone would make a similar doc just focusing on hardcore/jungle. (They probably have.)

And then it gets to grime and it sounds like the maddest most intense raw music ever

 

[pattycakes_]

I watched it as well. It was very good. It made me think hard about my own role in the story of grime.

An expertly curated Spotify playlist thats still in circulation among the Carmarthenshire wine and nibbles set?

 

[craner]

Really resonated with me when someone (Wretch 32?) said that music in the 90s was a lot more fun. Like for example think how not fun dancehall is nowadays (not saying it's not GOOD). OTOH a simplification ofc cos there was plenty of dark music out there. Perhaps the difference now is that the party music is darker too?

I love the sections about jungle and garage in this doc, I wish someone would make a similar doc just focusing on hardcore/jungle. (They probably have.)

And then it gets to grime and it sounds like the maddest most intense raw music ever

The caesura between the downfall of So Solid Crew and the incubation of grime was a rupture/retrenchment that looks clearer in retrospect. Time does its own editing.

 

[craner]

An expertly curated Spotify playlist thats still in circulation among the Carmarthenshire wine and nibbles set?

I'm not from Camarthenshire!

 

[pattycakes_]

The legend spread far and wide

 

[pattycakes_]

Some say it made it as far as Llandudno

 

[craner]

It got to Neath

 

[pattycakes_]

Goldie Lookin Chain have cited it as a major influence

 

[pattycakes_]

Gryff Rhys Jones claims to have "moshed" to it at an Abersoch in Gwynedd dinner party that became a little festive after the 2nd bottle of Beaujolais arose from the cellar

 

[Corpsey]

Could anyone recommend some good sets with d double?

 

[luka]

remarkably amateurish, particularly in the editing. cobbled together in a rush and on the cheap.

 

[luka]

and always very disappointing when people are only saying the things they know they are supposed to say
"yes we was the voice of the streets yes we were telling it like it is" makes for a very sanitised and dreary watch. would of been better to hear about tempa t bottling griminal for example.

 

[luka]

i get that the bbc wouldnt let them have wiley on it, thats unavoidable but it does leave a big hole.
the bits stressing how the police went to war with them were worth while tbf. but basically rubbish overall imo

 

[luka]

weird little fuck ups like a tiny clip of novellist talking about getting stabbed in new cross without any context. and there was a clip of i think maybe general lok from total package, again really brief and out of context and not even saying who he is. really shoddy.

 

[luka]

then it goes london, 1990, and they start playing skylarking by horace andy. why? ridiculous. then footage of the 70s too. really confused about london geography and basic temporality.

 

[shiels]

I mean what did you expect

 

[luka]

a bit of effort?

 

[shiels]

The mythology has been distilled hasnt it. No news here and I suppose you’re slightly resentful that you’ve yet again been written out of history

 

[luka]

yeah the narrative gets distilled and obscures the truth but if you make documentaries you shouldnt be content with that you should have an actual brain and a sense of curiosity.