london finance bro taxonomy
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pattycakes_
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pattycakes_
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Part of the charm
i'm glad Gary's out there doing what he's doing. i didn't watch the whole thing but he did really well on piers morgan. taking these ideas to a huge US audience, making piers and rubin actually agree with him on it being unfair that billionaires aren't taxed properly.
his predictions on the economy recently have mostly been right and he explains what's going on with labour's inflation vs borrowing problems and budget cutting very clearly in other vids.
i do find his videos very repetitive and he tends to go wildly off topic in interviews to recounting his personal anecdotes. once you've watched some of them you've got the message, unless he's responding to a specific current event (e.g. Musk, or Labour & budget). still, he's given me some mild but genuine optimism about left politics in the UK recently. as has been pointed out already in this thread, the life-story, the working class background are massively important. like Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey.
Jimmy the Giant is a youtuber moving in the same world as Gary, who similarly gave me a little lift out of the political doom-pit after the far right riots last year. one of his most popular videos was about his path out of the alt-right pipeline. he's genuinely gone from being a #freetommy demonstrator to a left wing advocate of wealth redistribution.
he used to be a parkour documentary maker, then he made a doc on "Chavs", read about socialism and the economy and had his whole worldview shifted. didn't go to uni, speaks about the manosphere from an everyday perspective of lived experience. helps him communicate what is actually so appealing about the rightward tending gym bro culture, and so where the left could do better.
think you'd be hard pressed to find another UK youtuber who can communicate "capitalist realism" to 510,000 viewers
his predictions on the economy recently have mostly been right and he explains what's going on with labour's inflation vs borrowing problems and budget cutting very clearly in other vids.
i do find his videos very repetitive and he tends to go wildly off topic in interviews to recounting his personal anecdotes. once you've watched some of them you've got the message, unless he's responding to a specific current event (e.g. Musk, or Labour & budget). still, he's given me some mild but genuine optimism about left politics in the UK recently. as has been pointed out already in this thread, the life-story, the working class background are massively important. like Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey.
Jimmy the Giant is a youtuber moving in the same world as Gary, who similarly gave me a little lift out of the political doom-pit after the far right riots last year. one of his most popular videos was about his path out of the alt-right pipeline. he's genuinely gone from being a #freetommy demonstrator to a left wing advocate of wealth redistribution.
he used to be a parkour documentary maker, then he made a doc on "Chavs", read about socialism and the economy and had his whole worldview shifted. didn't go to uni, speaks about the manosphere from an everyday perspective of lived experience. helps him communicate what is actually so appealing about the rightward tending gym bro culture, and so where the left could do better.
think you'd be hard pressed to find another UK youtuber who can communicate "capitalist realism" to 510,000 viewers
pattycakes_
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What's the title of that vid @glasshand ? Not available in Germany unfortunately
the other one i mentioned is How I Escaped the Alt-Right Pipeline
shakahislop
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gary stevenson's bubbled up into the mainstream over the last two weeks. i have a feeling of impending doom
shakahislop
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yeah it will be i) technical details in his arguments and ii) ad hominem. i'm betting on the latter being the main line. other things that will probably happen: people on the left putting the boot in coz they basically don't like people who look behave and sound like him. being set up to fail on tv put in a position where he can't win. question time was a bit like that. he'll lose the element of surprise soon enough and people will figure out how to deal with him in the communications world
version
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The more I've seen of him, the less convincing he's become. On Question Time he couldn't really respond to any questions asked of him, just kept making the same point about how people used to be able to afford houses. He's not wrong there though. He just has a handful of lines and anecdotes he recycles for each appearance, so you only really need to hear him once to get the message.
shakahislop
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yeah that's part of how question time works i think. i don't have like a big critique of it. but you get the sense that there's something about how it's set up that the parameters for what can be said are rigid. there's something locked about it. unmovable
version
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They don't have long to get their point across as it's only an hour, they cover multiple topics and there are several panelists. He's said more or less the same things in everything I've seen though, whether it's something with limited time like a TV show or a longer form thing like a podcast.
shakahislop
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yeah that's one of the issues. it's slightly extended soundbites. it's pre-longform. a thing of the past very 90s/00s
Murphy
cat malogen
problem with this lad is the horse bolted elsewhere outside of London long before Thatcher and/or 2008 financial crash
we are brassic though, his points on inheritance are on the nose too, eg I know two groups of young people at work - those whose parents will help them spin a mortgage out (bit la-di-da “chill maaaan”) and those like Burgess in a Shiels vid post who inherit nothing essentially other than being grafters who don’t expect a benevolent universe to gift them anything
dark horizons with Reform growing, would the financial sector be so keen on staying in the City? if it purges the gilets ..
we are brassic though, his points on inheritance are on the nose too, eg I know two groups of young people at work - those whose parents will help them spin a mortgage out (bit la-di-da “chill maaaan”) and those like Burgess in a Shiels vid post who inherit nothing essentially other than being grafters who don’t expect a benevolent universe to gift them anything
dark horizons with Reform growing, would the financial sector be so keen on staying in the City? if it purges the gilets ..