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malelesbian said:
LMAO remember when you called me an ableist? Look who's showing their true colors now Mr. Ableist =D

As for your little nursery rhyme...it was cute, both in its content and the fact that you honestly seemed to put some work in it (who knows why). Obviously I could write a better rhyme in my sleep hanging upside down, blindfolded with my hands tied behind my back (using a pen in my mouth), but unlike most people on Dissensus, I'm not a hater. Congratulations for expressing your non-robotic side. It was, as they say, adorbz.
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Oh, how precious, you've mastered the art of self-awareness! Bravo! It must be quite the achievement. Your evolution from mere mortal to self-appointed judge of nursery rhymes is truly inspiring. And your humility in refraining from showcasing your superior rhyming skills, despite claiming you could outdo Shakespeare in your sleep, is truly commendable. Please, grace us with more of your profound insights and unparalleled modesty. After all, the world could always use more of your adorb charm.
 
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other_life said:
yo third
do u rate leatherface
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hey.

Again I don't really have an opinion on them. The thing with indie is I haven't heard a truly terrible record, like that's so bad it becomes interesting to think about. Neither have I heard an outstandingly good record. It all resolves to a kind of mean average, which I guess is something to admire in some ways, but I just can't think about music like that. I strained my arm so forgive me if this is brief.
 
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@luka confessed to me one acid fuelled night he actually thinks van der graaf generator are the greatest rock band but pretends to like Oasis to be seen as a cult leader.
 
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linebaugh has been telling everyone to listen to this. i think he's onto something. it's got a groove.
 
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blissblogger said:
I used to say things like that and then I found out that Johnny Marr was such a fan of Chic that he named his son "Nile".
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The truth is more complicated.
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not sure that is counter evidence at all though. Its totally possible to love something utterly without willingly, or unwillingly, recreating it.

blissblogger said:
But it is true that indie is electric guitar music severed from the blues. The break actually came with punk - that's when boogie and shuffle rhythms etc dropped out of rock completely.

I am reading a book at the moment called Why Britain Rocks by Elizabeth Sharkey which is really interesting... it attempts to account for the freaky success, globally and for decades and decades, of UK pop and rock.... why has this tiny island, a fourth the population of USA, punched above its weight?

The conventional argument is that UK youth get their minds blown by this alien import from America, this jolt of rhythm that has no relation to their native culture... but when it comes to responding A/ have an advantage compared to other European nations because of being Anglophonic, so are already fluent in the language of rock'n'roll and B/ they add all these extraneous non-sonic elements that sparkle and sophisticate it (literate lyrics, art school ideas, sharp looking style, attitude). Some people add a sort of "nation of pirates and buccaneers" / imperialist type argument - a nation that is good at stealing stuff, taking primary raw materials, and refashioning them.

Sharkey, conversely, argues that the melodic DNA of rock 'n' roll originally comes in large part from the British Isles... ballads and folk forms that are brought over to the American colonies by settlers from Scotland, Ulster (essentially Scottish Protestants), and Northern England.... many of whom bring their culture directly and intact to Appalachia.

Which is one reason maybe why country music has always been popular in Scotland and Ireland.... it's a coming home

There's some kind of uncanny tectonic-plate predestination aspect to this.... due to the movement of the continental plates they were wrenched apart, but primordially the Appalachian range and the mountains of Scotland, Ireland and Wales were one!

Obviously no bearing on the millennia-later migrations of populations and musical traditions, but kind of eerie all the same, as a foretelling.
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yeh its all super interesting but theres also a lot of counter claims. Theres a set of native american people from a specific location who believe that their music helped birth the blues. musically it seems more compellingly similar than some of the other claims to blues, like "waulking songs" from the outer hebrides. But i think whats really interesting about the blues is all these competing claims of ancestry, people hearing their own forgotten and estranged folk music in it.

Re the UK, there's an idea of "lining out" in the anglican church might've lead to gospel call & response,. It died out in the UK before it could be documented but mightve lived on in american southern gospel music. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precentor
 
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catalog said:
@thirdform are you into AR kane?

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the revisionist guys won't understand this, but A.R. Kane ( in collaboration with colour box ) was an instrumental part in priming the UK for acid house and breakbeat 'ardkore



M|A|R|R|S - Pump Up The Volume

this was NUMBER ONE in the official charts in in the UK in 1987

I've probably posted about Colour Box somewhere else on this forum due to their Horace Andy do-over
 
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I was "fat fingered" ( no body shaming, I'm all about body positivity! ) and mistyped "instrumental" when I meant to say "INCIDENTAL" - Colour Box had me primed for breaks and beats and ACID years before the A.R. Kane collaboration



Colour Box - Shotgun ( 1983 )

we used to trip hard to this! Operation Julie! 1983!
 
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william_kent said:
the revisionist guys won't understand this, but A.R. Kane ( in collaboration with colour box ) was an instrumental part in priming the UK for acid house and breakbeat 'ardkore



M|A|R|R|S - Pump Up The Volume

this was NUMBER ONE in the official charts in in the UK in 1987

I've probably posted about Colour Box somewhere else on this forum due to their Horace Andy do-over
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that was HUGE here, too
all over radio and MTV play - it went gold here
US Billboard Hot 100[31][32][33]13
US Hot Dance Club Play (Billboard)[31]1
US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks (Billboard)[31]8
Canada (Music Canada)[41]Platinum100,000^
United Kingdom (BPI)[42]Silver250,000^
United States (RIAA)[43]Gold1,000,000^
 
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