vershy versh
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The best bits are the shots of the bat hanging in the sky and the mist crawling up the mountainside to Popol Vuh.
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vershy versh
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I don't like his films much. He's always been a moments director for me. There's a lot of filler around the stunning scenes like the descent at the start of Aguirre... or the opening monologue of Heart of Glass. I did love Lessons of Darkness though.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I always find it quite interesting that sometimes vampires are a metaphor for heroin and sometimes zombies are, I think both are in Burroughs. Maybe vampires are heroin and zombies are junkies I dunno. I really think that Only Lovers Left Alive is the best depiction I've seen of heroin addiction; the living at night, hiding from everything except what you need, and when they are in the taxi looking fucked up searching desperately and hopelessly for "un-polluted" blood is just perfect representation
Actually forgot this scene but it fits with what I'm saying
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
I just mean duration between original and latest remake, like Nosferatu has the longest duration of any movie ever in that capacity (to my knowledge)
IdleRich
IdleRich
OK, thought you were trying to wriggle out of a mistake but I actually get what you're saying reading back through. Is there any other film from that era (or before) that is deemed worthy of remaking now? The obvious thing that jumps to mind is Tod Browning's version of Dracula from the early 30s - you could argue that Nosferatu (any version) and Dracula are all based on the storyline from Bram Stoker and not strictly remakes, and yeah the Tod Browning one is slightly later but also a famous masterpiece so should be in the conversation. Hmm is a good question in fact, let me think...
Have you seen any of his docs? Like eg "the great ecstasy of woodcarver steiner" or "la soufriere". Or the one about the two mountain climbers.
I saw all of those (one or two a day, every day, for a week) at the Edinburgh film festival in 2000 and it was my first intro to herzog, I'd never seen any of his fiction films.
The early docs hook you in another way to the early fiction films I think, cos you literally cannot belive some of these people he's found and what they come out with. Just very existentially extreme people.
vershy versh
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I've seen a couple of the early ones and a bunch of the later ones.
IdleRich
IdleRich
This is what I mean, he has a weird way of looking at stuff, like in Strozek there is that bit with the aucioneer which presumably some people think is normal but which obviously fascinates Herzog and when he highlights it and shows it you immediately get how weird it is.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Looks like Townes Van Zandt... but the whole thing is weird, really weird and I guess it kinda happens a lot but I wouldn't even know except for Herzog going "this is fucked, everyone take a look"
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
I haven’t seen Les Vampires (1915 serial films by Louis Feuillade), but that could make for a cool remake perhaps. Olivier Assayas made a film and a series (Irma Vep) about a contemporary remake of the original series, but that doesn’t count really.
Aside from that, other examples which come to mind which are nearing a century in age, and which could use contemporary remakes and which could viably have audiences today, are Metropolis, Faust, The Passion of Joan of Arc.
Also occurred to me there is Abel Gance’s Napoleon (1927) and Ridley Scott’s Napoleon (2023), but I haven’t seen either and I’m not sure if the latter is properly a remake of the former.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Nah the Napoleon one can't be remade by Ridley Scott... didn't it involve multiple screens and all kinds of impossibly expensive fx.
Les Vampires... also Fantomas which was fucking ridiculous for the time
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1913 apparently.
I watched the whole ot that years back but only bits of his Vampires one
Les Vampires... also Fantomas which was fucking ridiculous for the time
Fantômas (1913 serial) - Wikipedia
1913 apparently.
I watched the whole ot that years back but only bits of his Vampires one
IdleRich
IdleRich
I watched this the other day, your life will be good if you watch it too
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