kid charlemagne

Well-known member
ok i made it out to see the brutalist....

it is certainly as good as advertised and lives up to the hype with respect to the craft..... beautiful vistavision, booming score, fiery performances, but i'm not sure how on board i was with the narratives leaps that are taken, especially in the 2nd half, it gets really insane, the first half is a very carefully constructed methodically laid out story, but the second half is almost like an adrenaline shot of nightmare fuel which conventionally shifts the film into a typical immigrant dream descent to immigrant nightmare, and i came away pretty underwhelmed by the film's overall statement, i dont think the film is as narratively remarkable as it thinks it is, but technically speaking, it is a crime that this film isnt being played worldwide in theaters for audiences to see.
 

sus

Moderator
ok i made it out to see the brutalist....

it is certainly as good as advertised and lives up to the hype with respect to the craft..... beautiful vistavision, booming score, fiery performances, but i'm not sure how on board i was with the narratives leaps that are taken, especially in the 2nd half, it gets really insane, the first half is a very carefully constructed methodically laid out story, but the second half is almost like an adrenaline shot of nightmare fuel which conventionally shifts the film into a typical immigrant dream descent to immigrant nightmare, and i came away pretty underwhelmed by the film's overall statement, i dont think the film is as narratively remarkable as it thinks it is, but technically speaking, it is a crime that this film isnt being played worldwide in theaters for audiences to see.
I heard it's good on the power dynamics of creative marriages, what did you think?
 

sus

Moderator
I intend to see Nosferatu asap
These are insights I stole from my gal, who is very into the various Nosferatu scenes but

There's a very interesting progression with each subsequent remake, 1922 onward, where it focuses more and more on the Penelope figure, the woman (Rose Depp) who stays behind. Less and less on Odysseus.

It also seems like they've really leaned in on making explicit the sexual overtones? Which are absolutely there in both the Herzog and the silent but.
 

sus

Moderator
I think vampires are very interesting, they're glamorous beautiful elites who suck the blood of young virgins.

Like, Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut is a vampire movie, right?
 

sus

Moderator
Or like the Papal Cardinals being pedophiles thing. Classic vampire plot. Winds up in Twilight.
 

kid charlemagne

Well-known member
I heard it's good on the power dynamics of creative marriages, what did you think?
ok yea there really is a lot dedicated to the makeup of Brody and his wife now that you mention it, with "power dynamics", i don't know how forwardly you posed your thought, but sexually, this is where my mind went when you brought this up, think the masterbation scene in The Master, that is replicated in this film.....

the loyalty of marriage and how that is underlying in the power dynamic is interesting in this film because Brody is very domineering towards his wife, though she is more sexually willing than he is for the most part.... there is a scene at a whorehouse in the beginning where Brody "can't get it up" and a girl suggests getting a man for him, and there is another scene towards the end where a woman does try to woo him for a night together, but he doesnt fully follow thru for her.... i dont take any of this as him being impotent as he does have sex with his wife, but I just find it interesting the way in how he is a real domineering masculine figure in their relationship so dedicated to his work, while she is the one who is most sexually willing in the relationship, there is a celebratory scene, and she leans over to say something and follows it with "i want to make love to celebrate" or something, and he only returns that with a smile..... a weird dynamic where he never takes the oppurtunity to cheat on her, but isnt as sexually willing and forward to his own wife.... it is the antithesis basically of "putting pussy on a pedestal", the opposite here, as she is putting dick on the pedestal, maybe because she doesnt want to lose such a hard working successful man
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Robbie Williams admits the truth that he's a performing monkey I guess.
Gonna catch Nosferatu on Sunday it seems.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Pretty sure Nosferatu is the first time a film has been remade after 100 years. I did a basic check on that and couldn’t find anything else.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I think vampires are very interesting, they're glamorous beautiful elites who suck the blood of young virgins.

Like, Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut is a vampire movie, right?

Maybe but Only Lovers Left Alive is about heroin.

Also isn't Nosferatu supposed to be the anti-glamour vampire, they tried to make him an actual ugly horrible monster.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Pretty sure Nosferatu is the first time a film has been remade after 100 years. I did a basic check on that and couldn’t find anything else.



Haven't seen that one for ages. I read something recently saying how bad it was but I do remember some really powerful scenes, all those rats and then the bit with Kinski sort of manifesting out of the shadow and reaching for Adjani.
 

sus

Moderator
It's a beautiful film. The first half is jaw-dropping and the second is still solid good
 

Murphy

cat malogen
Perfection



The music, the architecture, the rats, madness as super-nature enveloping entire societies ..
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Tempted to go see Nosferatu tonight

I've read unfortunate reports of the film attracting a mainstream audience who have the temerity to laugh at Robert eggers every directorial decision though which could be embarrassing for me
 

kid charlemagne

Well-known member
a genuine question, and i can understand there can be multiple versions of a good movie, but is there much reason for me to watch any of these nosferatu films when i can just watch the coppola dracula movie?
 
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