IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah, that's it.

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Whose portrait is that? With his bright yellow, tightly tailored coat (with fur collar?), louchely clasped cigarette and disdainful stare he looks every inch the debauched aristocrat, idly wondering if your blood and entrails are sufficiently pure to justify having his manservants perform your ritual murder for his entertaining.p
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
And I was probably being far too harsh on the French (they're not the only ones) but it's just a disturbing undercurrent that I reckon has deep roots going way back that's ultimately lead to stuff like the extreme cinema you mentioned. They've been consistently innovative artistically, but they did a deal with the devil at some point, and the Revolution seems like the most likely explanation.
Maybe you were overly negative but I think nations have literary styles or various styles which are informed by their nationality and I reckon you've hit on one of them which I like, at least in part, because of the very qualities you list.

I agree with you that too much of it can overwhelm the reader and make them feel nauseated just as too much to h cake. But that's no criticism of book or cake which taken in their right dose would be a positive experience.
 

version

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Whose portrait is that? With his bright yellow, tightly tailored coat (with fur collar?), louchely clasped cigarette and disdainful stare he looks every inch the debauched aristocrat, idly wondering if your blood and entrails are sufficiently pure to justify having his manservants perform your ritual murder for his entertaining.p
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I can only think of one person whose face seems to naturally fall into such an expression of disgusted disdain.

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I wonder if he looks at the judge like that as he says yet another equivalent of "I'm afraid I do not recall" for the 500th time in a row.
 

version

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Wonder whether Bret Ellis has read Huysmans; Bateman, with his popular music reviews and taxonomies of dinner and dress, is like an inverted Des Esseintes.
 

jenks

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just finished jon savage England's dreaming
I’d be interested in how that stands up now. I remember reading it at the time and being rather bowled over by it. Spent about five years tracking down list tracks etc before everything got dumped on YouTube
 

martin

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Yeah, I thought that bibliography/discography at the back was crucial as a teen...everything from Vague 'zine and The Mass Psychology Of Fascism to The Electric Eels and The Pop Group. Still never come across that "terrific" dub album he mentions by 'Skin, Flesh & Bones', though.

Current reading:
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luka

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i was enjoying that last year or the year before but then i put it down halfway and never managed to pick it up again
 

version

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Remember this?


When I was in high school, one night my dad snuck into my VHS collection and watched this, thinking it was an adult film. The next morning he pulled me aside, white as a ghost, and said "Son, I want you to destroy that Gestapo movie and never watch it again."

I've always thought it was weird my dad hated this movie so much he pretty much admitted he wanted to jerk off to some Nazi porn.
 

luka

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funnily enough my dad just had a stash of hardcore grit mags from Europe when he lived with us but after he married my African step mum my step brother found all these DVDs of white men banging 'Ebony' lovelies. I guess our taste evolves
 
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