Why Conspiracy Theories?
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A lot of today's problems do seem to be problems of scale. Driving cars is alright, just not when billions of you are doing it, likewise many other things.
luka
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Of course. Tourism too. Whatever. Naturally.
Another reason Dawkins is such a great example is that he thinks his scientific training is mappable onto the social and the psychological. You get this often with people who have trained in philosophy too. Always laughable results.
Another reason Dawkins is such a great example is that he thinks his scientific training is mappable onto the social and the psychological. You get this often with people who have trained in philosophy too. Always laughable results.
luka
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In fact I'd say that the more convinced a person is of their own rationality the more easily they are swayed by the irrational. Because everything happens in darkness.
Not so different from the way a repressed sexuality bubbles up in all kinds of cruel and perverse ways. It has much more force on account of being denied.
Not so different from the way a repressed sexuality bubbles up in all kinds of cruel and perverse ways. It has much more force on account of being denied.
luka
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In terms of what a 'reasonable' amount of paranoia might be, its important, I think, to remember that organised elites have been responsible for slavery eugenics programs mass starvation forced labour false imprisonment genocides torture and not to blithely assume that all that is in the past, or something only filthy foreigners do.
Mr. Tea
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All true, of course. And some of the worst atrocities have been justified by exactly the kind of thinking you're so susceptible to: the inhuman or subhuman 'enemy within' that must be purged, wiped out, eradicated like a disease. Infidels, heretics, witches, kulaks, the bourgeoisie, the Jews - same principle in each case.
How many times have you ranted in here about wiping out vermin and parasites?
No doubt you're right that I have unexamined prejudices, because everyone has them. But I think you've got some of your own fairly dark impulses.
luka
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part of the difficulties you have revolve around difficulties in judging tone and intent context etc. You're a very unsophisticated reader. So you take things literally far too often. You take expressions of emotion for programmatic statements and so on. It's just poor reading comprehension. I can't do maths so it evens out. The difference is, I don't try and do maths
pattycakes_
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Or, if by irrational you mean anything marginally outside of a very blinkered and easily manipulatable framework which more often than not plays into the hands of the global enslaving elite, then yeah, I can see where you're coming from.
Back to the easy and lazy words used to end the discourse. By divine are you talking about a guy in the sky or simple human potential? Supernatural means ghosts? Or the possibility of things existing beyond our limited sense field? Occult means witches? Or advanced understanding of mental power, eg tuning in to new layers of perception with simple meditation?
Armed with the highest tech of the time. Of course there are irrational theorists on both sides of the coin. But to write the other side off 100% based on little to no investigation on your own part makes you just as much of an idealogue imho..
Scientific rationalism needs everything to make sense, and be quantifiable and provable with instruments which just don't go deep enough. What came of CERN? Fuck all. They saw a new particle. Did they understand it? No. Guess who knew we were made of millions of vibrating particles millenia ago? The ancient Indians. Its in one of those big books they wrote. But how did they know without any tech? They sat still and shut the fuck up for days on end. We've been so well distracted and misguided to look outward, away from ourselves, look to the sky for your god, your school teacher to learn, the technology gurus to save us from all manner of threats, spending endless money developing technology that for the most part gets used to generate profit at the cost of our lives. So many of the solutions lie inside of us and it's through fucking ooga woogie, intuition and faith that we will figure it out. Trips are a shortcut. Valid and kosher.
P.S. Imagine music without all that superstition and belief in something greater than ourselves? Probably sounds like some German shit with an accordion and clogs
To be fair, he's been logged out for a while. Maybe he's having a moment of introspection.
sadmanbarty
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I think he’s at cafe oto. John Eden’s fate hanging in the balance for recommending it.
sadmanbarty
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Did you drop something in the keyboard halfway through typing that?
pattycakes_
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How come you're always up so late, version? Not now, but in general.