Environmental Collapse: when and how bad?
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Mr. Tea
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Hurricanes becoming so strong that new category needed, study says
Scientists propose new category 6 rating to classify ‘mega-hurricanes’, becoming more likely due to climate crisis
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Mr. Tea
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What a stupid fucking question to ask people:
theconversation.com
Are they going out of their promote the idea that environmentalists are misanthropic psychopaths or something?
‘Fascinating and troubling’: Australians would rather save a single human life than prevent an entire species from becoming extinct
Survey respondents overwhelmingly prioritised saving a human life – even if that person had been repeatedly told to evacuate and even if, as a consequence, a snail or shrub species became extinct.
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Are they going out of their promote the idea that environmentalists are misanthropic psychopaths or something?
mixed_biscuits
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The last thing we need is to turn up to A&E and find that a shrub is being treated in front of you.What a stupid fucking question to ask people:
‘Fascinating and troubling’: Australians would rather save a single human life than prevent an entire species from becoming extinct
Survey respondents overwhelmingly prioritised saving a human life – even if that person had been repeatedly told to evacuate and even if, as a consequence, a snail or shrub species became extinct.
Are they going out of their promote the idea that environmentalists are misanthropic psychopaths or something?
Mr. Tea
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If it was the last one of its kind then I probably wouldn't mind too much.
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@mixed_biscuits will love this.
The slashing of pollution from shipping in 2020 led to a big “termination shock” that is estimated have pushed the rate of global heating to double the long-term average, according to research.
Until 2020, global shipping used dirty, high-sulphur fuels that produced air pollution. The pollution particles blocked sunlight and helped form more clouds, thereby curbing global heating. But new regulations at the start of 2020 slashed the sulphur content of fuels by more than 80%.
The new analysis calculates that the subsequent drop in pollution particles has significantly increased the amount of heat being trapped at the Earth’s surface that drives the climate crisis. The researchers said the sharp ending of decades of shipping pollution was an inadvertent geoengineering experiment, revealing new information about its effectiveness and risks.
The slashing of pollution from shipping in 2020 led to a big “termination shock” that is estimated have pushed the rate of global heating to double the long-term average, according to research.
Until 2020, global shipping used dirty, high-sulphur fuels that produced air pollution. The pollution particles blocked sunlight and helped form more clouds, thereby curbing global heating. But new regulations at the start of 2020 slashed the sulphur content of fuels by more than 80%.
The new analysis calculates that the subsequent drop in pollution particles has significantly increased the amount of heat being trapped at the Earth’s surface that drives the climate crisis. The researchers said the sharp ending of decades of shipping pollution was an inadvertent geoengineering experiment, revealing new information about its effectiveness and risks.
Mr. Tea
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You'd think it wouldn't be too hard to tune the relative amounts of warming pollution and cooling pollution being emitted so that the effects cancel out, right? I mean that's the obvious solution here.
mixed_biscuits
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I think we'd get about 80% cloud cover from the creation of 70 trillion pterodactyls. So why not just do that?
Each person would receive a pack of 10,000 pterodactyl eggs, along with 100 tonnes of baby mix and some safety goggles.
Each person would receive a pack of 10,000 pterodactyl eggs, along with 100 tonnes of baby mix and some safety goggles.
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Panama prepares to evacuate first island in face of rising sea levels
The Gunas of Gardi Sugdub are the first of 63 communities along Panama’s Caribbean and Pacific coasts that government officials and scientists expect to be forced to relocate by rising sea levels in the coming decades.
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It's as if Atlantis never happened.
Panama prepares to evacuate first island in face of rising sea levels
The Gunas of Gardi Sugdub are the first of 63 communities along Panama’s Caribbean and Pacific coasts that government officials and scientists expect to be forced to relocate by rising sea levels in the coming decades.
mixed_biscuits
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Cost-cutting proposal: replace the Met Office with this statement: 'The [latest time period] has been the hottest on record.'
The Met Office, to universal disbelief and condemnation, has just announced that May was the warmest on record despite it having been cloudy and wet most of the time with only a handful of hottish days. They claim it's true because they include nighttime temperatures, during which excessive cloud cover has kept the heat in (not that the nights felt warm at all). That this body is so keen to spin whatever weather it gets so as to maximise climate fears suggests that the data processing itself may be similarly biased because of the incentives this institutional stance creates.
The Met Office, to universal disbelief and condemnation, has just announced that May was the warmest on record despite it having been cloudy and wet most of the time with only a handful of hottish days. They claim it's true because they include nighttime temperatures, during which excessive cloud cover has kept the heat in (not that the nights felt warm at all). That this body is so keen to spin whatever weather it gets so as to maximise climate fears suggests that the data processing itself may be similarly biased because of the incentives this institutional stance creates.
mixed_biscuits
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The Met Office's climate changeiest weather station is at Heathrow, 100m away from extremely hot things making the air around them extremely hot. That is the kind of professionalism we are dealing with.
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There's that, and the fact that many weather stations were located in areas that have since seen a lot of building development and are now subject to the Urban Heat Island Effect, and many stations simply no longer exist and are zombies that are assigned estimates, like EDF do when I forget to send in my meter readings. Strangely, EDF never seem to underestimate usage.
mixed_biscuits
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Yikes. I guess for local forecasts they may need to do that, but to feed it into overall averages is wrong. I noticed that if many weather stations' locations are looked at on Google Maps, they indeed have recent urbanisation. The UK stations are disproportionately in the south, which I guess has also been disproportionately built up over time. The idea of 'average' temperatures over a large land mass is fundamentally flawed for the same reason that a zebra is not grey, but also the attempt to create some summary picture is hindered by the unsystematic distribution of the weather stations and all the fudging required to undo all the biases (if they even try to do that).
I guess the stations are where they are because their original primary purpose was to measure and predict local weather but the system is not fit for measuring macroclimatic change. The comparisons made over decades are completely worthless because the apparatus and its context change so much. But the Met Office, when comparing over time, formulates its announcements in such a way that one would expect that this isn't a problem, that there is such a thing as 'a July national temperature' and that this has been measured objectively at every point in time - it's ridiculous.
Mr. Tea
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Yes, it's definitely that that caused China to experience a catastrophic heatwave two years ago, and the floods that inundated a large fraction of Pakistan the same year, and the increasingly extreme wildfires that affect California and Australia every year, and the vanishing glaciers, and... 🤪
mixed_biscuits
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Occam's Razor:
mixed_biscuits
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But it's too hoooot! Haven't you heard?