Live Earth

N

nomadologist

Guest
IdleRich said:
Mr Sloane said:


Nomadologist said:


Wasn't he talking about females? I guess the rest of what you said could stand unchanged about the people in question though.


I think that most of them do - that was my point. I'm asking why you assume that they don't?
Click to expand...

Mistersloane meant men. I think?

Most of men respect women? We live in frighteningly different worlds, Idle. Where do you live? Can I move there?
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
Mr. Tea said:
Who are these "males", Nomad? I don't think like that and neither (I'm fairly sure) do any of my male friends. Sounds like you are equating ownership of a Y chromosome with a tentency to read FHM and have no interests outside of beer, football and 'pulling birds'. Yes, there are men like that, but there are plenty who aren't.
Click to expand...

I'm not talking about just FHM types. You don't have to be an extreme example of a loser to lack respect for women. There are plenty of charming serial killers out there who don't drink Coors Lite out of a can or watch football.

I've only ever heard men talk about sex as a sort of "conquest" after which you've "possessed" your partner. I've never heard any women I know talk about men as possessions, except maybe as a sarcastic joke.

P.S. Of course, I'm sure there are men who respect women on earth. But I wasn't talking about them, I was talking about the kind that don't!
 
Last edited:
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
Again, the entertaining mistersloane said:

"Certainly amoung my crowd it was ( and still is ) a real badge of honour to have broken boys in, they became 'yours' forever then. Punk girls, bless em."
Click to expand...
Where do the punk girls fit in to those sentences if they weren't the ones doing the "breaking" of the boys?
I think you're reading what he said and taking from it what you want, not what he actually said. You can probably explain the psychology of that better than I can.

Most of men respect women?
Click to expand...
I meant most men leave teenage girls alone and I stand by that.

"You don't have to be an extreme example of a loser to lack respect for women. There are plenty of charming serial killers out there who don't drink Coors Lite out of a can or watch football."
Click to expand...
Yes, but most people aren't serial killers - even the men who do watch football.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
IdleRich said:
Again, the entertaining mistersloane said:


Where do the punk girls fit in to those sentences if they weren't the ones doing the "breaking" of the boys?
I think you're reading what he said and taking from it what you want, not what he actually said. You can probably explain the psychology of that better than I can.


I meant most men leave teenage girls alone and I stand by that.


Yes, but most people aren't serial killers - even the men who do watch football.
Click to expand...

First, Mistersloane is gay. That means his "set" would be male on male set.

Second, you can "stand by" that all you want, it doesn't change anyone else's experiences.

Third, did I say most people are serial killers? I'm talking about the people who are. Deviants, right?
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
First, Mistersloane is gay. That means his "set" would be male on male set
Click to expand...
Not necessarily. Let me ask you again, if it was men "breaking in" men why did he say "gotta love punk GIRLS"?

Second, you can "stand by" that all you want, it doesn't change anyone else's experiences.
Click to expand...
So what are you saying here? Let me just get it straight - most men do molest teenage girls?

Third, did I say most people are serial killers? I'm talking about the people who are. Deviants, right?
Click to expand...
You said you distrust all male high school teachers - I'm just pointing out that only an idiot would do that.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
IdleRich said:
Not necessarily. Let me ask you again, if it was men "breaking in" men why did he say "gotta love punk GIRLS"?


So what are you saying here? Let me just get it straight - most men do molest teenage girls?


You said you distrust all male high school teachers - I'm just pointing out that only an idiot would do that.
Click to expand...

I didn't say i REALLY distrusted male high school teacher. God. British people never get sarcasm, do they? An idiot thinks that everything someone says is DEAD SERIOUS. I was kidding about having had the old stereotype about pervy teachers been proven true to me.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
And as a female, I will "stand by" the fact that I have been disrespected and seen other women disrespected by all manner of males, of all education levels and from each tax bracket. Not *every* man I've ever interacted with, but I would say it's probably more than 50/50 in my experience.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
nomadologist said:
First, Mistersloane is gay. That means his "set" would be male on male set.
Click to expand...
I sincerely doubt he's hung around exclusively with other gay males since the age of 13, though.
If he's talking about his own experiences of adolescence I should imagine he means the group of kids he went to school with/hung aroung with at that time, i.e. a certain socioeconomic group and possibly a certain subculture (hence "punk").

Er, I guess. Mistersloane...?
 
Last edited:
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
I didn't say i REALLY distrusted male high school teacher. God. British people never get sarcasm, do they? An idiot thinks that everything someone says is DEAD SERIOUS. I was kidding about having had the old stereotype about pervy teachers been proven true to me.
Click to expand...
And you were kidding above when you said all men molest teenage girls right? I love your arguing style Nomad, you stick to a point until you get proven wrong, then you say "I was joking" and a couple of minutes later (soon coming no doubt) you say "and anyway I was right because.."
My main point was I hate that everyone jokes that anyone who helps out young kids is a paedophile because a lot of people are just genuinely nice and they are going to be the ultimate losers of that lame knee-jerk attempt at humour (which has a real edge to it).
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
He said "his crowd" and also talked earlier about "breaking boys in" so I thought he was talking about the same crowd, i.e. queer or gay people.

Just my impression, could be wrong.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
Ha, brilliant! While I was writing that last reply the "and anyway" bit I was predicting just appeared right on cue....

"And as a female, I will "stand by" the fact that I have been disrespected and seen other women disrespected by all manner of males, of all education levels and from each tax bracket. Not *every* man I've ever interacted with, but I would say it's probably more than 50/50 in my experience."
Click to expand...
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
IdleRich said:
And you were kidding above when you said all men molest teenage girls right? I love your arguing style Nomad, you stick to a point until you get proven wrong, then you say "I was joking" and a couple of minutes later (soon coming no doubt) you say "and anyway I was right because.."
My main point was I hate that everyone jokes that anyone who helps out young kids is a paedophile because a lot of people are just genuinely nice and they are going to be the ultimate losers of that lame knee-jerk attempt at humour (which has a real edge to it).
Click to expand...

Huh? when did I say "all men molest teenage girls?? Please show me where I said that. I was giving examples of some pervy stories. And I wasn't "arguing" about anything.

I wasn't really "trying to be funny" either, just making light of what I know to have been pretty painful situations for a lot of people I know in an attempt to understand why many people are so terrible to other people.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
What about it, Idle? Hate to break it to you, but a lot of women have been treated badly by men. Nothing personal to you, it's just the truth, and in my experience, all too true.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
If anyone's jumping from "a lot of bad things have happened to me at the hands of men" to "all men are bad", it's you, not me. I never said "all men" were anything.

And this is boring.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
What?

You have your experiences, other people have theirs. Life's like that! Some people will probably disagree with your impressions of the world, because they've had different experiences! Big deal.
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
Mr. Tea said:
And no woman has every treated a man badly? :slanted:
Click to expand...

I'm sure they have, though I haven't really seen any woman beat a child to within an inch of their life, and I've never had a nurse tell me about the three-year-old whose rectum they had to surgically reconstruct after social services took the boy away from an abusive WOMAN
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top