baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
I like the fact it's not perfect - like the equivalent of a lot of rock singers whose voices are not good, but they still have that something that makes them captivating. I'd personally like to see some more vocal imperfection in RnB...you don't really get that much that I've heard.
There's some quote from David Byrne where he basically says singers who don't have great technique are more believable than those who do... like no one believes an opera singer is feeling the shit he/she is singing about. I think there's an element of that in your "average" Beyonce or what have you. Can be great to listen to, but not easy to connect with?
theres imperfections and theres just noticeably weak though. he sounds like he can barely reach half the notes hes trying to hit. i dunno about wanting more imperfections in R&B, id be happy with just more distinct 'grainier' voices. sort of why i prefer rihanna to beyonce, who rarely gives off any sort of vulnerability in her voice at all and is generally just all power, never much tenderness. rihannas voice has a much more interesting texture, but shes definitely still a capable singer.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
beyonce's bloody awful in my opinion. so clinical (whereas kelly has a gorgeous, human vocal delivery, for example). and god knows how she's got a reputation as being super-sexy - the crazy in love video was ont he other day and there's something very awkward about her dancing. Again, so bloody clinical....
true, there is a difference between an imperfect voice and a weak one. But some of my favourite singers in rock (Dean Wareham, Ian Brown, no doubt some more) have technically shite voices, so i'm personally not averse to that. And i think The Dream is technically better than either of them (obviously so, in fact).
Interesting to mull why a deviation from brilliant technicality doesn't seem to be tolerated (or rather, marketable) outside certain types of music.
true, there is a difference between an imperfect voice and a weak one. But some of my favourite singers in rock (Dean Wareham, Ian Brown, no doubt some more) have technically shite voices, so i'm personally not averse to that. And i think The Dream is technically better than either of them (obviously so, in fact).
Interesting to mull why a deviation from brilliant technicality doesn't seem to be tolerated (or rather, marketable) outside certain types of music.
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baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
fair play to david byrne, who i like a lot, but this is kinda obvious, no? Some of the greatest singers have ropey voices, and lots of opera is sung so passionlessly that it becomes musical wallpaper.
And there's the story from 'What's Going On'. where Marvin hit upon his brilliant delivery in that album after being told 'not to try so hard'. Worked a charm.
Room with a view
Banned
any love for esmee denters ?
optimum
Poochie
Her big single is pretty good pop/rnb
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
true. she's like a robot that i want to be sexually assaulted by.
CrowleyHead
Well-known member
Well, she's a Virgo. Usually Virgos have this consistent attitude of robot perfection. Look at Cassie, yet another Virgo.
The best/worst Beyonce video is the "Check Up On It" one, where she proves her talents by duplicating the images of other singers (Mariah, J-Lo, Alicia Keys, Mary J.) as if to show her superiority.
craner
Beast of Burden
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