Funky/London/UK House
Benny Bunter
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theres not been many but I've definitely heard Marcus Nasty play Bok Boks Bongo jam remix and L-Vis' 'Reprise' before.
Also heard 'Idee d'un tropique' by Bowly being played on Deja Vu I think, but not as a big hit or anything.
Can't really think of any more, most of this stuff is a bit too wonky (for want of a better word) to get played in proper funky sets. I really like a few Doc Daneeka tunes though, he seems much closer to proper funky than most.
Also heard 'Idee d'un tropique' by Bowly being played on Deja Vu I think, but not as a big hit or anything.
Can't really think of any more, most of this stuff is a bit too wonky (for want of a better word) to get played in proper funky sets. I really like a few Doc Daneeka tunes though, he seems much closer to proper funky than most.
jimitheexploder
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Sounds like it...
I dunno though I've heard Marcus Nasty get Hodge and Local Action on Rinse with him so... I think its more an exposure thing rather than a out right dismisal of the crossover potential.
Benny Bunter
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Major Lazer's Pon De Floor got hammered quite a lot by funky DJs, Petchy for one. Does that count?
jimitheexploder
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Clap Trap is a pretty good one, I've heard that quite a bit all over the place. Joe is a badman.
Pon Da Floor is massive though yeah. I've even heard Kode9 drop that one. Everyone from N-Type, bait student electro disco DJs thru to L-Vis and all them funky guys too.
Cantn't stand it myself but it sure made an impact with its whiny annoying synths...
So played out.
Pon Da Floor is massive though yeah. I've even heard Kode9 drop that one. Everyone from N-Type, bait student electro disco DJs thru to L-Vis and all them funky guys too.
Cantn't stand it myself but it sure made an impact with its whiny annoying synths...
So played out.
Marcus plays the VIP of Mosca's "Square One" a lot.
Pearson Sound's "Wad" obv.
The Doc Daneeka remix of "Fatherless" sounds like a straight UK funky tune to me really, it's not really different in feel to Seiji remixing "Chekere Son" or MJ Cole's "Volcano Riddim" (though obv there's an irony in that the latter two tunes aren't really from the "scene" either).
"Square One (VIP)" less so, but much more so than any other Mosca tune and nearly any other Night Slugs tune in general (discounting Lil Silva obv).
Pearson Sound's "Wad" obv.
The Doc Daneeka remix of "Fatherless" sounds like a straight UK funky tune to me really, it's not really different in feel to Seiji remixing "Chekere Son" or MJ Cole's "Volcano Riddim" (though obv there's an irony in that the latter two tunes aren't really from the "scene" either).
"Square One (VIP)" less so, but much more so than any other Mosca tune and nearly any other Night Slugs tune in general (discounting Lil Silva obv).
Corpsey
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Yeah, although would it be fair to say that there's a lot more emphasis on a big b-line ala. dubstep?
Instantly realising I'm wrong here Fingaprint - Night Time and any number of Roska tunes.
Corpsey
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Where does UK Funky take its cues from sonically? The sounds you hear in tunes by Funkystepz/Ill Blu/(thatgreymantunelukajustposted) etc. are similar, and not just the percussive aspects... Also I notice similar melodies/chords. I suppose this similarity could be scene-generated or perhaps is influenced by a style of US house?
My amateurish attempts at writing uk funky tunes on Reason lead me to believe there's something about the percussive nature of every part of a UK funky track (especially stripped down MC fodder) influences the construction of melodies/bass lines - when a melody line is basically throbbing along with claps it works to just have two notes. Mind you this probably applies with a lot of genres.
This thread is the last place I need to point out how great 'Meltdown' by Ill Blu is but there you go. Ill Blu are freakin' awesome.
My amateurish attempts at writing uk funky tunes on Reason lead me to believe there's something about the percussive nature of every part of a UK funky track (especially stripped down MC fodder) influences the construction of melodies/bass lines - when a melody line is basically throbbing along with claps it works to just have two notes. Mind you this probably applies with a lot of genres.
This thread is the last place I need to point out how great 'Meltdown' by Ill Blu is but there you go. Ill Blu are freakin' awesome.
Benny Bunter
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carnao's coming on Deja vu in a minute, i thinks its his first show on there. Could be worth tuning in.
Got 17 tunes for a tenner off carnao yesterday including Dogbark and Biker gonga, Get out. All big tunes Drop him an email at carnao11@hotmail.com and he'll sort you out. He;s got a 5 track ep called 'the evolution' coming out soon too, I think Biker Gonga might be on that aswell.
Got 17 tunes for a tenner off carnao yesterday including Dogbark and Biker gonga, Get out. All big tunes Drop him an email at carnao11@hotmail.com and he'll sort you out. He;s got a 5 track ep called 'the evolution' coming out soon too, I think Biker Gonga might be on that aswell.
jimitheexploder
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I think the lines are starting to blur more between funky and the crew from outside. For one the crew outside with labels are the only ones pushing the sound to audiances outside. Numbers, Hyperdub, Hardrive, 502, Local Action, Night Slugs... whatever all get on it and release what they can, get it out there. I've seen a few funky fans get a little hostile to it but I think they're just being protective and grumpy. There is to much energy and vibes to contain in one section of the UK its gonna spread. The music is gonna get closer too... I mean dubstep peeps have been vibing off funky energy for some time now and as long as that keeps rolling the two are going to get closer and closer. Thats gonna make for some intereting music I reckon. Before it burns out anyway... I can see it rolling for a while yet mind.
p.s. the dude on deja right now is sounding sweet as, cheers for the shout.
p.s. the dude on deja right now is sounding sweet as, cheers for the shout.
luka
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part of why grim sort of died was people from outside getting in on it. thats partly why road rap was able to come in and take part of that audince. those outside people ripping off funky is great becasu it makes thir music a little bit less shit than it would otherwise be but if funky starts catering to the outside guys thats bad.
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jimitheexploder
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I dunno man I'm torn...
I think both sides can give each other a whole lot. Producers from both sides could cross over into each others.
Funky is already a really inclusive genre, you always hear dutch and US house and all out funky house from all over the shop anyway, you always have done its a bit part of the scene. I don't think yet more UK producers from the dubstep and grime scenes seeping into that will hurt too much. As long as DJs keep an eye on the vibe and do their thing.
I know what you mean though man I just think there is a general vibe of over protective-ness that could do with loosening up a little.
Its diffrent to grime I reckon, its already a wider thing...
I think both sides can give each other a whole lot. Producers from both sides could cross over into each others.
Funky is already a really inclusive genre, you always hear dutch and US house and all out funky house from all over the shop anyway, you always have done its a bit part of the scene. I don't think yet more UK producers from the dubstep and grime scenes seeping into that will hurt too much. As long as DJs keep an eye on the vibe and do their thing.
I know what you mean though man I just think there is a general vibe of over protective-ness that could do with loosening up a little.
Its diffrent to grime I reckon, its already a wider thing...
luka
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thats my rhetorical position. broad brush strokes. my real position would be more nuanced perhaps but essentailly the same. i do think london has gone a bit corny. (judging from the outsid) i looked at a blog called southeern hospitality yesterday and sort of cringed. (not that the tunes they are hyping ar bad. theyre not.)
luka
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i guess its just the internet tho isnt it. theres something deeply corny about thee internet. discobelle, lo bee, fact, fader, pitchfork, southern hospitality, cocaine blunts.... a hundred thousand muisc blogs. its a bit depressing. i dont even know if its posisbl to do something on the internt and for it not to be corny.
Benny Bunter
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its all fine and good funky being influenced by US House, RnB, Dutch house, South African house, Grime, Garage...whatever. But surely not the post-dubstep stuff. What possible influence could they get from that that they haven't already got? It would only water it down
Benny Bunter
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I think you could count the number of good music blogs on one hand, when it comes to this sort of stuff at least...
jimitheexploder
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Yeah...
You see I aint from London, I don't give a bolock if a big tune comes from some suburb or Finland. If the vibe is good its good. If original funky headz get releases on bigger labels and start to build an audiance thats cool. Its their fault if the producers then go and fuck up and make cheese after they get a little exposure. There will always be someone else to step in and make the shit hot underground stuff.
I don't even think funky is that close to a tipping point though, it still needs a load of love from the scene and outside of it in some ways... I mean the releases on hyperdub and numbers are all pretty established hits in the scene its not gonna hurt if you release them. The funky scene has moved on and is already making more hits that can be released down the road on labels. Labels are way slower than the scene. Its a two tear thing. So a slow build is still gonna happen.
The more producers from the funky scene that get releases next to the established guys on dubsep related labels the better really. Then DJs can make their own minds up on where the energy is at cos the field is closer.
You see I aint from London, I don't give a bolock if a big tune comes from some suburb or Finland. If the vibe is good its good. If original funky headz get releases on bigger labels and start to build an audiance thats cool. Its their fault if the producers then go and fuck up and make cheese after they get a little exposure. There will always be someone else to step in and make the shit hot underground stuff.
I don't even think funky is that close to a tipping point though, it still needs a load of love from the scene and outside of it in some ways... I mean the releases on hyperdub and numbers are all pretty established hits in the scene its not gonna hurt if you release them. The funky scene has moved on and is already making more hits that can be released down the road on labels. Labels are way slower than the scene. Its a two tear thing. So a slow build is still gonna happen.
The more producers from the funky scene that get releases next to the established guys on dubsep related labels the better really. Then DJs can make their own minds up on where the energy is at cos the field is closer.
jimitheexploder
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I mean Roska plays off a load of these guys anyway and he still sounds good. I mean he's got more flack since he started releasing music... but he's still good. Roska and Untold are a good combo. Ramanman could work well with these guys. Martin Kemp already sounds like he's got one foot in each scene even if one side or the other don't pick up on it. The cross over trax prove there is already a vibe brewing. Joe, Breach, T.Williams...
I just think there is a load of potential on both sides and they're gonna keep vibing off each other.