Mgmt
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Personally, I think both the first Suicide LPs are incredible - I couldn't give a toss who else likes them, or 'for what reason', but they're both gloriously dark in their own ways. The first one's more blatantly in your face, the second's like some Vegas snake oil merchant preening you and getting under your skin, and then exposing the trash. Haven't heard anything after these two tho. Prefer the first one, but then I heard it before I ever went on the internet.
Regarding 'scenes', I'd argue the current 'international Oi! scene' is more elitist and redundant than Italo Disco. I think Mgmt are shit and boring, the Black Devil reissue was OK but overrated, but stuff like Gay Cat Park, Naif Orchestra, Charlie, Mike Mareen, Mr Master, Casco and Gekko are timeless. I'd love to go to some Italo Disco events in London, to be honest. I went to an 80s Groove one a few months ago and it was tops.
Regarding 'scenes', I'd argue the current 'international Oi! scene' is more elitist and redundant than Italo Disco. I think Mgmt are shit and boring, the Black Devil reissue was OK but overrated, but stuff like Gay Cat Park, Naif Orchestra, Charlie, Mike Mareen, Mr Master, Casco and Gekko are timeless. I'd love to go to some Italo Disco events in London, to be honest. I went to an 80s Groove one a few months ago and it was tops.
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swears
preppy-kei
Fuck all the bands mentioned on this thread so far, you all need to skip 3:00 into this vid to hear some truly mindblowing shit:
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Shit, I really thought you were gonna post "Fight Back" by Discharge there
nomadthethird
more issues than Time mag
Is this Charlie you speak of the one who did "Spacerwoman"? That song is pretty great, I'd like to hear remixes of that if they exist.
nomadthethird
more issues than Time mag
Yeah, hard to imagine that people on Dissensus are going to bug out if you make fun of scenes.
The funny part is that everyone here knows I've lived in Bushwick, Brooklyn--ground zero for American bullshit hipster scenesterism-- for the past 5 years. I wasn't trying to accuse anyone of anything that I hadn't had the displeasure of aiding and abetting myself on many occasions. I'm over that shit because I'm really, truly over it, not because I'm trying to deny people their fun.
I'm at a point where if I want to like an MGMT song because it sounds good, I don't care if that's not "cool"...not in the slightest...maybe there was a day when I would have, but that day is done.
nomadthethird
more issues than Time mag
Now this music really transcends genre.
I wonder if they see themselves as a band who writes music that is a reaction to the stifling omnipresence of the Jonas Brothers.
yeah that track is totally lush, that mr flagios pretty great as well, just on the end before it went a bit shit
i've been wanting to do this for ages, here are my fave disco records the ones i can find on youtube anyway:
sylvester - i need somebody to love tonight
dance reaction - disco train
salsoul orchestra - magic bird of fire
charlie -spacer woman
laurie marshall - disco spaceship
magnifique - magnifique
Tantra - hills of katmandu
man friday - love honey love heartache
slick - space bass
q - voice of q instrumental
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PAP6OAmbWO0
raw silk - just in time and space
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lAdUd_a4u3o
underwater - harry thurman
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0PLrSPcJJTc
the rockets - space rock
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJxYxyPCyw&feature=related
just realised most of those have space in the title...
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yeah his just intonation solo guitar is second to none. chills down my spine every time. la monte young meets john fahey would be a perfect comparison. im going to post a couple more of his as well...
congrats. thats a good point to reach. can you see the next one in the distance?
sure scenes can be a drag, but great things can happen both within and without them. dont be so quick to dismiss entire genres or scenes or styles or people who are into it -- even if they are insular and narrowminded -- but we are not, or try not to be, right?
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no it was an old record that was re-released albeit in bits....
i don't really know why it was thought to be a charade.
this is the original lp
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DEVIL-D...14&_trkparms=72:1301|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
not cheap, although it was cheaper before it was reissued oddly. the reissue was actually mastered off a mint vinyl as the publishers didn't have the masters, the two guys involved in making it were library, musicians.
they reformed (sort of ) and recorded some more material.
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it wasn't just me i have to say, the contact was made with the owners rather than the artists, you kn ow anything could have happened to them and they probaby wouldn't own the track anyway, could be writing under pseudonomys as they were etc, so we found the publishers in italy, it took a while. Contact with bernard fevre, ( the track was him and a guy called jackie giordiano not just fevre) was made later when the publishers passed on the email to him. both guys are library guys:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Jacky+Giordano
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Bernard+Fevre
a dude called pp roy who recorded for rephlex and had been collecting weird disco bits since forever before any of these records were worth a thing, or anyone paid attention to them had it on comps he used to make, and it was clearly a killer, Grant who runs rephlex wanted to track it down so we got on it.
I think after that was a success b fevre started recording more stuff under the black devil name which is the stuff on lo but i think he had been doing music generally.
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nochexxx
harco pronting
ha interesting! i've often wondered what pains labels have to go through to get such licenses. so just to be clear are you saying the original bddc record was released as a library record or was it just released to a regular publisher?
of course i'm aware that fevre is a library dude having seen this comp
which seems to be one of the easiest fevre library records to find.
of course i'm aware that fevre is a library dude having seen this comp
which seems to be one of the easiest fevre library records to find.
regular record recorded under a pseudonom, recorded one pissed night in france i think, there are a few records like this, quite a few disco records, so that artists on library contracts can record some stuff on the side, here is another famous one:
most important one is the champ i guess, which was all the kpm guys trying not to get caught
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