Are fairy tales too scary ?
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/...es-to-scary-for-children/?partner=rss&emc=rss
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/...es-to-scary-for-children/?partner=rss&emc=rss
nomadthesecond;163371 That one lullaby is pretty dark--rock-a-bye baby falls from a tree?[/QUOTE said:lol no happy ending there ...
Grimm's tales have their moments for sure
Indeed, only recently found out that Company of Wolves was inspired by Valerie & Her Week of Wonders."Also agree with Idle on Rackham , Dulac and by extension, "Company Of Wolves" and the like ..."
the older version of each story you go the darker, more gruesome it gets. but the sanitized disney fascism is not better.
i worked on a "year end promotion" video for disney once (you can see it in the design link in my sig - design/motion/disney year end), and the creative brief was "unstoppable, glorious, heroic, and universal". and during the meeting i said "oh, like Lenny Riefenstahl" -- but no one at the 8+ people meeting got it -- people who work at disney are some of the most ignorant and stupid right wing over weight assholes in the entertainment industry. you should hear a bunch of older creative professionals sit around on coffee break, horror stories about working there are endless.
and this just in last week, Hitler loved disney and made fan-art:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/23/adolf-hitler-disney.html
http://www.lofotenkrigmus.no/e_akvarell.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579629/Did-Adolf-Hitler-draw-Disney-characters.html
makes sense dont it.
I reckon kids can benefit from some bits of darkness to go with what a parent may want - 'all light'.
Life's a mix so get used to it kids.
Too much sheltering makes for weak kids.
Can understand how 'old tales' can just get old ,
but I agree with Idle Rich - lots of old stuff still around and sometimes they ring true.
Can an old tale be as horrific as getting one's head bashed / smashed during sports
as your Dad yells in from the sidelines ?
For example ...
Also agree with Idle on Rackham , Dulac and by extension, "Company Of Wolves" and the like ...
Ouch. Though it does sound a bit like the setup for a modestly subversive early-'90s family comedy whereby you respond by smuggling in tapes of The Addams Family and some Tim Burton films to counter-indoctrinate them.
I've heard this before but I've also heard people say it's an urban myth, have you got any links that support it?"Walt Disney had one of the largest collections of porn (spanning centuries and cultures) in world history. Make of that what you will."
Is that necessarily the case? I mean, in the old school tales often the evil queen is the person in power though I suppose you could argue that this power tends to come from a good king who has had the wool pulled over his eyes (see also the good father and wicked stepmother). Or how about Rapunzel? Who is it who locks her in the tower, I can't remember, presumably someone with some kind of power although I guess there exists a parallel force in the form of the prince who ultimately rescues her."I think the main difference is that in Disney fairytales, and a lot of the more traditional fairytales, power is always this centralized force and the prevailing order is always "right" even when it's scary...in Roald Dahl stories like Matilda abusive teachers get theirs, the individual child is more clearly positioned as a "good" person against the tide of "evil" that's inherent in power..."
I've heard this before but I've also heard people say it's an urban myth, have you got any links that support it?
Needless to say I want it to be true.
Is that necessarily the case? I mean, in the old school tales often the evil queen is the person in power though I suppose you could argue that this power tends to come from a good king who has had the wool pulled over his eyes (see also the good father and wicked stepmother). Or how about Rapunzel? Who is it who locks her in the tower, I can't remember, presumably someone with some kind of power although I guess there exists a parallel force in the form of the prince who ultimately rescues her.