kids

[empty mirror]

mine is in launch position
ETA +/- 2 weeks
protein pills: check
:dons helmet:

brian eno during labor
raymond scott during infancy

 

[mistersloane]

mine is in launch position
ETA +/- 2 weeks
protein pills: check
:dons helmet:

brian eno during labor
raymond scott during infancy

Yow! How great! I'm a boy so I'm in total awe of anyone who can do that, it's like one of those things that's so far out of my reach I can't even comprehend it, however hard I try, like Michael Jackson or world peace or something. Keep us posted!

 

[empty mirror]

yay! i am now dad status
the wife is exhausted
we've been listening to tons of raymond scott (and some pole) with our child
and boards of canada was playing through the delivery

ha!

 

[john eden]

yay! i am now dad status
the wife is exhausted
we've been listening to tons of raymond scott (and some pole) with our child
and boards of canada was playing through the delivery

ha!

congrats to all 3 of you, mirror.

For the birth of our daughter we were given a choice of soundtrack of:

a) nowt
b) Chemical Brothers
c) An easy listening compilation

so it was summertime and the living is easy all the way...

Raymond Scott did not agree with her who had carried the child for 9 months, as she has an aversion to trebly weirdness.

No doubt Droid jnr sprang into the world to the sounds of congo natty and Ninja Man.

 

[crackerjack]

congrats to all 3 of you, mirror.

For the birth of our daughter we were given a choice of soundtrack of:

a) nowt
b) Chemical Brothers
c) An easy listening compilation

so it was summertime and the living is easy all the way...

Raymond Scott did not agree with her who had carried the child for 9 months, as she has an aversion to trebly weirdness.

No doubt Droid jnr sprang into the world to the sounds of congo natty and Ninja Man.

Are the Chems sposed to make you breathe faster and get the whole thing over quicker? Horrible choice.

You could've had some combiination of the two, with the up-tempo Billy Stewart version of Summertime. Your girl would've come out yodelling.

 

[john eden]

Are the Chems sposed to make you breathe faster and get the whole thing over quicker? Horrible choice.

You could've had some combiination of the two, with the up-tempo Billy Stewart version of Summertime. Your girl would've come out yodelling.

I think they just had a chems CD in the operating theatre, I imagine for their own amusement when someone was completely knocked out.

Categorically one of the best days of my life, anyway. I do take on board nomad's point upthread about parents being condescending - there are genuinely people out there who are completely defined by parenthood and who think you are somehow less of a person if you haven't had kids.

I suspect these are the same sorts of people who seem to think it is reasonable to ask me and my partner when/if we will be having a second child on an almost weekly basis.

Which makes it very polarised because the natural response to that is to say that having kids isn't for everyone and that some people have more fulfilling lives precisely because they haven't got kids etc. Which makes for a bit of an unbridgeabe chasm maybe, especially once you stir in stuff like societal expectations and the biological clock and so on.

Which is one of the reasons I don't really go on about family stuff in "subcultural" circles.

Anyway.

Classic Dissensus Dad-to-be behaviour, putting together a playlist for the birth when the woman is doing all the carrying around, the hormonal turbulence and then the pushing and stuff.

 

[IdleRich]

"yay! i am now dad status
the wife is exhausted"

Nice one!
You're the second person I've congratulated today for spawning. Something in the air I guess, or there was nine months ago at least.

 

[vimothy]

Having tasted the water in London, that's where I'd check first.

 

[empty mirror]

thanks all!

listened to Christ - Metamorphic Reproduction Miracle a dozen times today
too obvious?

yeah, in deference to nomad el segundo, i won't be running over anyone with my pram.

anyway, with all that bad news out there, i feel privileged to have this little break in the clouds, and that bit of sunshine.

 

[littlebird]

yay! i am now dad status
the wife is exhausted
we've been listening to tons of raymond scott (and some pole) with our child
and boards of canada was playing through the delivery

ha!

congrats!

and keen choice of music for the delivery.

 

[zhao]

Nice.

Like the sound of the compilations. Been meaning to put some of these together for my girl. She's too young to tell the difference (beyond "stuff that's fun to dance to" and "stuff that isn't"), but the 60s/70s African one sounds cool - what's on it?

a lot of nigerian hi-life, garage/psych, classic pop like Miriam Makeba and Mbila Bell and Mpongo Love, a bit of Cape Verde, a bit of Ethiopique... etc... it is much more popular than the electronic CD with both mother and child...

i can see about uploading it... and will be making more: jazz, classical, sleepy-time ambient, etc.

i continue to enjoy the child's company immensely. it's an amazing way to take a break from work: playing games while singing/making strange noises to music. we've been playing quite a bit of chess lately and i must admit here that i am not always the victor -- but this is in many ways not an ordinary 10 year old: mother was given a 10 DVD documentary about WWII from the Soviet perspective, and she watched like 3 and gave up for a while because it is so dense and rather boring: but the child sat glued to the screen and finished the entire series in like 4 days.

 

[zhao]

are you ever afraid that your kid is going to grow up and become a republican/neo-con (or the equivalent)??? since most of us are pretty left leaning here, do you ever worry about the rebelling and becoming the opposite of the parents thing...

what would you do if they become fundamentalist christians or something??? if i had my own child and this happened i honest don't know what i would do... disown him/her probably.

 

[john eden]

are you ever afraid that your kid is going to grow up and become a republican/neo-con (or the equivalent)??? since most of us are pretty left leaning here, do you ever worry about the rebelling and becoming the opposite of the parents thing...

what would you do if they become fundamentalist christians or something??? if i had my own child and this happened i honest don't know what i would do... disown him/her probably.

no, but I would prefer them not to.

 

[zhao]

no, but I would prefer them not to.

but you can't control them can you? and the more you do the more they rebel, during the "formative" years.

i mean i think naturally just by being an example of a (relatively) kind, compassionate, just, non-uptight, non-fearful, non-hate-filled individual/parent should be enough, and that the child will come to see the evils of corporate greed, national socialism, whatever, in the world... but there is always the chance that this is not enough isn't there... i mean they can always get swayed by peers and, shudder to think, the majority of the population...

 

[swears]

are you ever afraid that your kid is going to grow up and become a republican/neo-con (or the equivalent)??? since most of us are pretty left leaning here, do you ever worry about the rebelling and becoming the opposite of the parents thing...

what would you do if they become fundamentalist christians or something??? if i had my own child and this happened i honest don't know what i would do... disown him/her probably.

As long as they didn't grow up to be hippies, I'd be cool with that.

My nan is a tory and a devout irish catholic who loves pope Ratzinger 'cuz he's so hardcore, but I still love her. She's wrong, but she's not hurting anyone.

 

[ripley]

I find kids intimidating and fascinating.

Still don't have much of an urge to have one myself, even though I'm "running out of time" to do it biologically.. it's weird to deal with the idea that I could basically make the decision never to have one through inaction.

but I get weirded out because I am in male-dominated scenes about 80% of the time and it's always men saying "it's great I have a kid and the wife/girlfriend (who isn't present) is happy it" but the wife/girlfriend isn't present in any of the scenes I am in, It’s almost always the guys talking about them.

So I'm thinking to myself, where's my wife?

in the meantime I made a mix for all my friends with kids (I think I posted it here already but if any parents are interested drop me a note)..

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

...disown him/her probably.

nah you wouldn't. you'd grit your teeth & get on with loving them I think. disowning is a serious business - it's the kind of thing fundamentalist man do when they find out their kid is gay. my dad "disowned" me when I was 15 (not for being gay - tho that would've done the trick too) & we didn't talk for about 8 yrs, tho it wasn't so terrible as all that cos he's been divorced from my mum & living in another country since I was little. anyway I don't pretend to understand it but parental love is a powerful thing, compulsive it seems - surely actual parents can expound on this more clearly.

 

[minikomi]

to make a crust im in contact with roughly 600 3 - 6 year olds for 8 hrs a day ... definitely agree with the animal like tendencies, and keen sense of humor.

 

[john eden]

but you can't control them can you? and the more you do the more they rebel, during the "formative" years.

It isn't your job to completely control them, which is just as well!

Not everyone rebels either, and not everyone who does rebel does so in a predictable way.

I mean, y'know, most people are not actual national socialists, are they?

I think I know more people who have deliberately cut themselves off from their parents than the other way round.

 

[john eden]

nah you wouldn't. you'd grit your teeth & get on with loving them I think. disowning is a serious business - it's the kind of thing fundamentalist man do when they find out their kid is gay. my dad "disowned" me when I was 15 (not for being gay - tho that would've done the trick too) & we didn't talk for about 8 yrs, tho it wasn't so terrible as all that cos he's been divorced from my mum & living in another country since I was little. anyway I don't pretend to understand it but parental love is a powerful thing, compulsive it seems - surely actual parents can expound on this more clearly.

Yeah I'd like to think this makes sense.

When I crashed my Dad's car someone asked me "oh wow does he still love you?" and I said "well, yeah of course, but he doesn't like me very much right now."

Similarly there are bunch of quite fundamental things that my family and I disagree on. Proper things which would lead to very heated and lengthy arguments on an internet discussion forum. But we still get on ok apart from the odd rant.