Immigration (Legal & Non)

vimothy

yurp
Be interested to see some data on global migration trends...

This is from Wikipedia, world net migration rates:

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crackerjack

Well-known member
so Afghanistan's a net importer of people? That's a lot of GIs and jihadis.

Also surpised by the patterns in southern and central Africa - is that the mining industry?
 

vimothy

yurp
South Africa: regional economic powerhouse. Not sure about the great lakes region though. Prunier to thread!
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
South Africa: regional economic powerhouse. Not sure about the great lakes region though. Prunier to thread!

Yeah, knew about S Africa. Also read somewhere Luanda was most expesnive city on earth :)confused::confused:) thanks to various gemstone mining. But DRC? Uganda?
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
Botswana is a very good look for a lot of that neighbourhood so that being in blue ain't a surprise.

but DRC i'm also stumped on: people roaming across borders in what we know is a porous region?

i note Chad, Sudan, Congo, Gabon are net losers, and that the CAR has a n/a by it.

interesting map Vim, nice one.
 

vimothy

yurp
From a WB paper with case studies of migration to and from various African states:

Uganda, for example, was a relatively prosperous and stable country in the 1960s, when the stock of immigrants equaled more than 11 percent of the population. But with the economic and political decline in the 1970s and 1980s, Uganda became an important source of emigrants (Black and others 2004), and the total number of immigrants has fallen by one third, to 1.8 percent of the population.

(...)

[A]bout 80 percent of Uganda’s immigrants come from nearby countries that have suffered from sustained violence—Burundi, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Rwanda, and Sudan.

(...)

Uganda had the largest number of victims of forced migration in 2005, amounting to 250,000 people or equal to almost half the numbers of immigrants in the official data
 

vimothy

yurp
Lots more stuff at the WB here.

EDIT: Perhaps not totally surprisingly, WB data seems to disagree with the CIA data used to make the map above WRT African migration flows.
 
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sufi

lala
Recent trends in immigration control have been on the face of it about 'deterrence' of would be migrants, and 'integration' of newcomers, but there has also been an unadvertised but sure-footed move towards privatisation which has wide implications and effects

it goes a long way; from extraterratorial ALOs - Airline Liaison Officers, who check passengers in country of origin and work with the check-in desks (imho a zone of extreme prejudice where your human rights are obscure at the discretion of an unoffical, untrained proxy border control/security force, wearing fancy airline livery free from legal scrutiny or responsibilty), the airlines themselves legally compelled to render tightly bound 'failed' migrants under guard from tax free legal limbo 'airside' to the hands of those they sought refuge from ...

... to the planned offshore detention centres, extrapolating UK force outside of it's legal constraints ( http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news682.htm ) no doubt sub-contracted to successive failed franchises of the international military-industrial complex, the private security who batter and racially abuse deportees without regulation or oversight ( http://www.medicaljustice.org.uk/ )

... into the world of work (as discussed above) where your employer, again untrained and unofficially, maintains internal migation controls,

... encroaching insidiously into the most personal and intimate relationships, uk has quite recently followed saudi to implement laws restricting marriage to foreigners without state authorisation, but it's much deeper than that, of course; potential partners require careful screening for possible advantage or detriment in the race for residence or a green card, power relationships overturn as legal status changes, dependency and exploitation is facilitated within communities, between partners, even parents and kids depending on who hold the right paperwork, so we're all immigration controllers
this last aspect of migration really interests me - how does the experience of a son of an immigrant man and a native woman differ from that of a daughter, or if the parents' origins reverse? thinking about inherited gender roles, access to different cultural stuff, different prejudices and discrimination suffered according to the family's ethnic shape...
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
good look at the world migration map. no big surprises except this:
so Afghanistan's a net importer of people?

which is totally mind-boggling. tho Iran's in the lengthy process of trying to deport some 1 million Afghan refugees so perhaps that has something to do w/it. (OT but related - American GI was captured in Afghanistan, the 1st of the entire war - dunno about you lot but the news hit a nerve for me)

oh & Oman the only Arab country that is a net importer. would've thought there were more, just via economic migration to work in oil & its supporting industries, i.e. Indians/Filipinos/etc. workers & as well as intra-Arab migration. especially Saudi.
 
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padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
but there has also been an unadvertised but sure-footed move towards privatisation which has wide implications and effects

this shit is even more out of control in the U.S.

& so on

to say nothing of the likes of Wackenhut etc. running prisons.

power relationships overturn as legal status changes, dependency and exploitation is facilitated within communities, between partners, even parents and kids depending on who hold the right paperwork, so we're all immigration controllers
this last aspect of migration really interests me - how does the experience of a son of an immigrant man and a native woman differ from that of a daughter, or if the parents' origins reverse? thinking about inherited gender roles, access to different cultural stuff, different prejudices and discrimination suffered according to the family's ethnic shape...

yeh never seen it w/kids - but definitely relationships, legitimate & not, broken up by the stress. terrible power dynamics esp., in my experience, when the immigrant's a woman. people who got married & then broke up but were stuck together out of obligation. the most successful couple I ever knew - the woman went & lived in Mexico for like 3 years, they got married there & did all the paperwork & interviews so when they came back to the U.S. her husband was already all sorted out. course not everyone can do that (but it's a helluva love story innit).
 

sufi

lala

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
new report out today from 'hm chief inspector of prisons' anne owers, who definitely sound like a good sort: http://www.ncadc.org.uk/Newszine109/Detaineeescortsremovals.pdf

I wrote to her the other day about something and she still hasn't written back - good sort indeed...harrumph! ;)

As you say, the privatisation of immigration detention centres is huge cause for concern. The staff turnover in private prisons is unbelievable, up to 45 epr cent in some places some years...
 
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