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great balance between the ultra-minimalism of Bells Sketch EP & boisterous emotion of Air&Lackthereof and Untold remix.
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great balance between the ultra-minimalism of Bells Sketch EP & boisterous emotion of Air&Lackthereof and Untold remix.
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2010/04/blubstep-looking-at-april-17-malcolm.html#links
i think the joker comment is a bit off the mark but a lot written here does ring true.
i think the joker comment is a bit off the mark but a lot written here does ring true.
course it doesn't - you just have to listen to the music to understand that yet again he's just read the press and not listened to the music and totally misunderstood what the artists are going on about with the whole crying thing to fit an argument, and of course it has to all fit into the numm even though it doesn't fit into the numm too, this preconcieved template thats like a holy grai...
James blake is the most 'idm' dubsteps got though, but a much better comparison is early jamie lidell, and the context is similar, but its not the art label or aphex is it etc... thats just trying to shove the music into the bleedin numm, and anyway, jamie lidells great so no bother, who cares, aphex and art did great records too.
Tentative Andy
I'm in the Meal Deal
I'll say this, at least he's consistent.
sure but put it in the context of heavy dark dubstep or on the other side joy orbison in contrast, and the 'emotional qualities' makes more sense, more sense than art or aphex (which are part of his prescribed concept a d experience ) from 17 years ago or whatever when these guys were 4 or 5 years old and also share nothing much musically at all, except they're both electronic and for dancing. whats house girls part 8?
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he hated Hyph Mgno and that was pure emotion, little else. he sounds more like he think it's lacking concepts, something cerebral to stimulate his brain, not his heart. i see this regularly in simon's writing. "where's the big idea in dubstep" er, they're just musical ones? sorry about that...
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droid
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Hang on though, wasn't Reynolds criticised specifically for excluding Aphex/IDM etc... from the nuum narrative? :slanted:
Also, I thought the IDM/Electronica parallels were pretty much beyond dispute at this stage? We managed to do a mix of the genres and its hard to tell which is which - whilst barely skimming the surface, and things have gotten way more 'IDM' since then. In fact, one of the most positive things about the whole future garage thing for me is that those kind of naive emo-tronic melodies are finding a place within a dancefloor context and scene, with all the momentum which comes from this dynamic.
Thats what eventually killed Electronica/IDM in the late 90's/early 00's. Loads of good music (a lot of it dancefloor oriented) - no scene.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
"dancing is overrated. It takes more thought and effort to move people's emotions than it does their bodies on the dancefloor" - did Blake say that (it's unclear to me...reading too quickly, prob.). Whoever said it, it's normative bollocks.
but what Reynolds says is equally stupid (but y'know, everyone jumps the shark, just about), about there being no emotion in the post-dubstep, wonky, or whatever we're calling it these days. Guido and Zomby are both full of emotive content, for starters. But then functional stuff is great too, of course. And yes, good point well made about Hyph Mngo.
but what Reynolds says is equally stupid (but y'know, everyone jumps the shark, just about), about there being no emotion in the post-dubstep, wonky, or whatever we're calling it these days. Guido and Zomby are both full of emotive content, for starters. But then functional stuff is great too, of course. And yes, good point well made about Hyph Mngo.
well he was dismissive of certain attitudes in it, and dismissive on the whole because of it's non dancefloorness if you like, which to be honest are pretty founded in places, i'll have a listen to that mix but there are as many simularites as disimularites, usually within the dynamics of bass and drums anyway.
jimitheexploder
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A girl came up to me after a DJ set once and told me that Aidy's Girl Is A Computer nearly made her cry. She also had the wise words of wisdom 'never be afraid to skank'.
How to dance to James Blake - 2 min 16 sec:
How to dance to James Blake - 2 min 16 sec:
mos dan
fact music
this morning i noticed it was almost exactly a year ago, the nuum debate. can't help thinking muggs and i are a leeetle bit vindicated. the nuum has only become less useful and relevant in the last year. as for k punk, has he written a single word on new music in the last 12 months? on the music we were discussing, anyway? i swear the last time he showed any sign of listening was a bassline piece about three years ago.
Benny Bunter
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I think Reynolds is pretty much spot on here, as per usual. I quite like James Blake but it does bring me down and bore me a bit sometimes. Not sure why you would think the nuum has become any less relevant over the last year or so with Funky coming good. Reynolds might not get on with Funky much but from what I can gather he accepts it as part of the nuum anyway. Doesn't he? :slanted:
For me the most exciting dance music is still getting piped out of East London pirate stations, with direct continuation from the garage and grime that came before it. Not that much has changed really.
For me the most exciting dance music is still getting piped out of East London pirate stations, with direct continuation from the garage and grime that came before it. Not that much has changed really.
hmm so what re k-punk - i dont think he likes much of the music here , he certainly writes about new music though. I can't say james blake does anything for me either really tbh, i have nothing against the harcdcore nuum too, it works and has worked in alot of ways and with funky now it still works, it doesn't work here particularly well and the shape of things has changed a bit like it does from time to time.
The things that annoys me most here is the lack of real engagement with the music and the willful misreading in alot of ways, its all just text to him, it's just treadmill reading of 'the new stuff' through this slightly snidey lens of a predestined critical context, ie its just utterly inevitable he'll misread it and misunderstand it, read it out of context, what else can he do, and it's just so boring and he's not a boring writer he's a very good one.
The fact that he's actually very good is the worst thing about all this and the blog and his recent guardian stuff have been so rubbish lately is a shame. I don't want him to cheerlead for the music i like but i'd like some better writing about it.
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Benny Bunter
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Edit: Soz, misread a post
UFO over easy
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Sectionfive
bandwagon house
Dancing will only ever be overrated for those who dont dance.