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grizzleb

grizzleb

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I'm loving watching Newsnight Scotland. Since this began it appears that the default of absolutely everyone, even the anchor and the programme itself is that these events are basically caused by deep social problems and aren't simply some kind of outspring of random violence from nowhere. I love Scottish political culture; it's great.
 
Benny Bunter

Benny Bunter

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Just had the displeasure of flicking thru a copy of today's Sun whilst waiting for me burger in a local takeaway. The editorial is calling for the scum to be deported to a foreign country seeing as our jails are full up, doesn't say where (I know...whaddya expect from the Sun, I know. Still...)

I'm leaving the country at the end of the month and I don't think I ever want to come back. Devastated...

edit: melodramatic drunk post
 
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gumdrops

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jamelia was good on newsnight. best newsnight all week actually. prob cos that dim bastard gavin essler wasnt on there.
 
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Damien

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Ulala said:
Ugh. Just seen this on the Guardian website:



Yes, because removing the sole income of people living below the poverty line will really deter them from going looting again. How about removing the internet connection of any cunt signing that petition instead?
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I told my brother about this and his reply was: 'yeah I've been trying to sign it all day but there is too much traffic and I can't get through'

:(
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
grizzleb said:
I'm loving watching Newsnight Scotland. Since this began it appears that the default of absolutely everyone, even the anchor and the programme itself is that these events are basically caused by deep social problems and aren't simply some kind of outspring of random violence from nowhere. I love Scottish political culture; it's great.
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Jesus. Can Scotland invade England, please?
 
you

you

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your kidding me

remember this?

sooooo, how about:

Nancy Gwen Cameron, Florence Rose Endellion Cameron, Luke Benedict Osbourne, Liberty Kate Osbourne, Lara Lettice Johnson, Milo Arthur Johnson, Cassia Peaches Johnson, Theodore Apollo Johnson and any other Tory child under the age of 18 get free drink and drugs from any dissensian from now on??? - I think their parents are ultimately responsible for their behaviour, and should, as any practical parent would testify, be aware of their children's whereabouts and activities at all times.

I think their parents homes are paid for by the tax payer, so one foot wrong by a tipsy tory sprog would surely result in the ultimately responsible parents having their 'paid for by the tax payer' privilege removed...

Just a thought, fair's fair right?
 
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don_quixote

Trent End
This e-petition has received the following response:

This e-petition has reached 100,000 signatures. The Government has notified the Backbench Business Committee in the House of Commons who will consider its suitability for debate when Parliament returns in September. This e-petition will remain live, and people will be able to continue adding their signatures. As you may be aware, the House of Commons debated the recent public disorder when Parliament was recalled on 11 August 2011 and there was an opportunity for MPs to address the substance of this e-petition. This does not preclude a decision by the Backbench Business Committee to schedule a further debate on this issue when the House of Commons returns from the summer recess. In the meantime, we would like to update you on the Government’s current position on the substance of this e-petition. Prisoners convicted of a criminal offence and detained in prison are not entitled to social security benefits. That means that anyone who is eligible for social security benefits and who is caught, convicted and imprisoned for any offence committed during the recent disorder that has disrupted London and other UK cities will be disqualified from receiving social security payments. The Department for Work and Pensions is also looking at whether further sanctions can be imposed on the benefit entitlements of individuals who receive non custodial sentences. In addition the Department is considering increasing the level of fines which can be deducted from benefit entitlement. In relation to social housing, it is already a ground for eviction if a tenant or a member of their family is involved in anti-social behaviour or criminal activity in their local neighbourhood. Ministers have encouraged social landlords to use these powers, and a number of local authorities have pledged to do so. The Department for Communities and Local Government is consulting on proposals to allow such evictions to take place where the criminal activity takes place outside the vicinity of the local neighbourhood; more information is available to view here: http://www.communities.gov.uk/statements/newsroom/publicdisorder.
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SOURCE: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337
 
vimothy

vimothy

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You’ve got every right to be angry Luka. (Maybe you should smash you flat up and set fire to it too.) How dare people feel outrage that their cities have been looted and burned? The reactionary scum are always with us, aren’t they? They’re all the same: small people, trying to be big; stupid people, trying to be smart; scared people, trying to be brave. How pathetic they all are! How deluded they are! The Scum. I hate them. Not like us, though—nothing like us. We few “Proud Paralytics” are above all that.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
you said:
Nancy Gwen Cameron, Florence Rose Endellion Cameron, Luke Benedict Osbourne, Liberty Kate Osbourne, Lara Lettice Johnson, Milo Arthur Johnson, Cassia Peaches Johnson, Theodore Apollo Johnson and any other Tory child under the age of 18 get free drink and drugs from any dissensian from now on??? - I think their parents are ultimately responsible for their behaviour, and should, as any practical parent would testify, be aware of their children's whereabouts and activities at all times.

I think their parents homes are paid for by the tax payer, so one foot wrong by a tipsy tory sprog would surely result in the ultimately responsible parents having their 'paid for by the tax payer' privilege removed...

Just a thought, fair's fair right?
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Love it. :) It's great how much of the anti-rioter rhetoric can be directed at the people at the very top of the social pile, too - I like the symmetry - "living off the State", "supported by taxpayers", "always on the scrounge", "no respect for those around them", "think they're above the law", "give nothing back to society"...
 
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crackerjack

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luka said:
a couple of people posted this on facebook
http://universityforstrategicoptimism.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/riotcleanup-or-riotwhitewash/
what are your thoughts?
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Haven't read the article - and it does sound like the kind of adolescence-as-political-stance spoof-RATM-lyric that would bug the fuck out of me anyway – but I'd be interested in its supporters comments on the allegation that the pic was originally doctored to exclude two inconvenient black people stood at the front..
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
crackerjack said:
Haven't read the article - and it does sound like the kind of adolescence-as-political-stance spoof-RATM-lyric that would bug the fuck out of me anyway – but I'd be interested in its supporters comments on the allegation that the pic was originally doctored to exclude two inconvenient black people stood at the front..
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Ha, that's Rob Manuel, my old sensei from my days on b3ta.com...

I read that article and just got really pissed off with it. It began with some screed against those TERRIBLE white borgeois people (top tip: easiest way to make yourself sound as borgeois as all hell is to use the word "borgeois" as a handy catch-all term for everything you don't like) then said something about their "non-existent community". Did the author actually talk to any of the people in the photo? The general tone of her article suggests they're beneath her contempt - just as the rioters were treated by most of the mainstream media. How's that for "dehumanising the Other"?

I can't recall exactly what the photo looked like when I saw it the other day but the (I make it three) black people are clearly visible now...maybe there's been some amendment.

The broom brigade may have been hijacked as a photo op for the Tory press and who knows, maybe a few of them really are dyed-in-the-wool hang-the-lot-of-'em nutters, but to call the clean-up operation "fascism", or even "the closest thing to popular fascism", is ludicrous. I call Godwin in the first degree.
 
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crackerjack

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Mr. Tea said:
Ha, that's Rob Manuel, my old sensei from my days on b3ta.com...

I read that article and just got really pissed off with it. It began with some screed against those TERRIBLE white borgeois people (top tip: easiest way to make yourself sound as borgeois as all hell is to use the word "borgeois" as a handy catch-all term for everything you don't like) then said something about their "non-existent community". Did the author actually talk to any of the people in the photo? The general tone of her article suggests they're beneath her contempt - just as the rioters were treated by most of the mainstream media. How's that for "dehumanising the Other"?

I can't recall exactly what the photo looked like when I saw it the other day but the (I make it three) black people are clearly visible now...maybe there's been some amendment.

The broom brigade may have been hijacked as a photo op for the Tory press and who knows, maybe a few of them really are dyed-in-the-wool hang-the-lot-of-'em nutters, but to call the clean-up operation "fascism", or even "the closest thing to popular fascism", is ludicrous. I call Godwin in the first degree.
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But Tea, obviously the correct stance would've been to leave the high street strewn with broken glass, the ransacked shops as memorials to be preserved for eternity - or at least until Iain Sinclair has had the chance to get down there and write a book about it.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I think Iain Sinclair might be a bit borgeois these days...I mean, when was the last time he ate a Pot Noodle with his bare hands, eh, EH?
 
grizzleb

grizzleb

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You're not telling me that the clean-up wouldn't have taken place much the same regardless without these people out, smugly assuring themselves that they're 'good people'. I mean, fair enough, donate 90 minutes of your time to a good cause, whatever, but don't expect me to lick your bumhole as a result. Doing good shit for people should be regarded as banal and quotidian, not an earth-shattering, once in a blue moon event that occurs only after anarchy invades the cloistered seclusion of your living room, via TV.
 
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