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there's loads of these now right? axie infinity, defi kingdoms etc. i fear i will never understand it but my intuition says it will only last for so long so may your orcs and ogres work hard for you for as long as it lasts.

Dont hate the player etc
 

hmg

Victory lap
there's loads of these now right? axie infinity, defi kingdoms etc. i fear i will never understand it but my intuition says it will only last for so long so may your orcs and ogres work hard for you for as long as it lasts.
Yes, this is why I haven't chucked my job in yet
 
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toko

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what makes you think it's non-dystopian? that is certainly not my impression
ok. i wont say non-dystopian, there are dystopian elements to crypto. one scary one is that virtually everything can and will be tokenized into something liquid and tradable for money. markets will replace many coordination games which relied on their own non-monetary currency (e.g social capital). but i figure that it would happen anyhow, there are worse solutions.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
ok. i wont say non-dystopian, there are dystopian elements to crypto. one scary one is that virtually everything can and will be tokenized into something liquid and tradable for money. markets will replace many coordination games which relied on their own non-monetary currency (e.g social capital). but i figure that it would happen anyhow, there are worse solutions.
i'm a bit high on painkillers, but one thing that is a bit interesting to think about is what a message board like dissensus would look like (as in, what people's posts would look it) if there was a way to monetise them
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
i'm a bit high on painkillers, but one thing that is a bit interesting to think about is what a message board like dissensus would look like (as in, what people's posts would look it) if there was a way to monetise them
That could be right around the corner. Theres a new social media platform, seemingly for developers at this stage, called Lens that is about turning almost every bit of data into an NFT. When you follow someone, you get an NFT representing which number follower you are of that person.

It may seem needlessly financialized, but think about how extractive these platforms already are. Its not like this stuff isn't already being monetized, its just being monetized by the platforms who sell the data to advertisers, rather than the users producing the content. Right now, all we users get for producing valuable content is a nominally free browsing experience.
 

version

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vimothy

yurp
ok. i wont say non-dystopian, there are dystopian elements to crypto. one scary one is that virtually everything can and will be tokenized into something liquid and tradable for money. markets will replace many coordination games which relied on their own non-monetary currency (e.g social capital). but i figure that it would happen anyhow, there are worse solutions.
this seems straightforwardly dystopian. what then are the non-dystopian elements?
 

toko

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this seems straightforwardly dystopian. what then are the non-dystopian elements?
People generally have very different ideas of what constitutes dystopian vs non-dystopian. usually gets used as a rhetorical device to give their statements more oomph. regardless, ill try to answer ur question. i think the governance tools for smaller communities, stuff like multi-sig wallets, various voting mechanisms, transparency via blockchain, smart contracts, interoperability standards etc. these tools effectively automate a lot of the work that you would previously pay to lawyers, accountants. etc now of course i won't speak to what the small communities do, but it makes it easier/cheaper for smaller organizations to coordinate.i don't know if you call that utopian but i don't think that's dystopian
 
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Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Yeah the utopian stuff, in abstract, is about making horizontal organization more tenable by automating a lot of the administrative stuff, enshrining it in code that itself can be changed according to popular vote. Arguably, the ideal of communism would be impossible without an advanced technocratic infrastructure that leverages much more advanced kinds of this technology.
 

luka

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i had one of you cryto-kids stop today and start boasting about how he's almost made enough to buy a house outright and he's not even 21 etc.
of course when it came time to pay for his poem he didnt have any cash and would it be ok if he bought me a coffee instead. typical.
 

Leo

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that's one way to pump up the value, I guess. stock traders would probably be in violation of trading laws if they did the same.
 
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