Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Here's one from Reuters about the same thing


"We are urgently working on how to limit the collateral damage of decoupling from SWIFT in such a way that it affects the right people. What we need is a targeted and functional restriction of SWIFT," Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock and Economy Minister Robert Habeck said in a joint statement.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Yeah those are the ones I have heard about, my question is, has anything been implemented already apart from some companies blocking their websites in Russia? ie. Pornhub
I'm pretty sure some members of Putin's circle have already long been greylisted by the US Office of Foreign Assets Control, and that more sanctions have been added since the invasion.

Edit: but I can't find a list of these things. I think there is a public list of entities being sanctioned, though.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Afghanistan was only a few months ago.
Yeah. I don't think the world is unusually unstable at the moment. There's always a load of big deal things going on, if you take the whole world as your unit of analysis. It feels unstable though. Every few months or whatever there's something that makes the world feel like a crisis.
 

wektor

Well-known member
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Yeah. I don't think the world is unusually unstable at the moment. There's always a load of big deal things going on, if you take the whole world as your unit of analysis. It feels unstable though. Every few months or whatever there's something that makes the world feel like a crisis.
What I mean is that that's a consequence of what it feels like to experience the news through the internet
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
It's a seperate point but it's also probably, off the top of my head, the first conflict to start in a place where EVERYONE has smartphones with videocameras and that. I can't think of another where do many people will have had access to that. Like there's no doubt that eg the stuff that was happening in Myanmar was a million times worse than what we've seen so far in Ukraine, but it was meditated in a totally different way
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
It's a seperate point but it's also probably, off the top of my head, the first conflict to start in a place where EVERYONE has smartphones with videocameras and that. I can't think of another where do many people will have had access to that. Like there's no doubt that eg the stuff that was happening in Myanmar was a million times worse than what we've seen so far in Ukraine, but it was meditated in a totally different way
Although there was the fitness influencer videoing her aerobics routine while the army took over the parliament, that was pretty amazing.
 

luka

Well-known member
i wrote a poem for a girl today she said her friend is in ukraine and when she calls him she can hear the gunfire
 

luka

Well-known member
pretty heavy. i think she said hes near chernobyl near a border troops are rolling over and he sees the warplanes over head etc
she was crying a bit. pretty full on. bought home the realness of it to me. anyway she gave me a tenner which is the main thing
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
It is beginning to look like this was a huge miscalculation, not just strategically and politically, but in terms of capability. The Russians are sacrificing some of their best troops in doomed airborne and amphibious assaults without fire support, going against years of military doctrine. Armoured columns lost and running out of fuel in the countryside, soldiers stealing and begging for food only 48 hours into the campaign, dazed conscripts apparently thinking they were on training maneuvers. Lack of logistical support preventing them for committing large numbers of troops for major assaults. Inability to control airspace and failure to knock out command and control. More widely, we have unprecedented political resistance at home, a major kicking diplomatically with an unusually united international community, disastrous PR campaign, even the cyber threat seems dulled. This was not well planned, despite years of anticipation and months of direct preparation.

If they don't make significant progress or change tactics soon the offensive will collapse. Presumably Putin will revert to Grozny at some point and start carpet bombing the cities.
Surely one of the important outcomes of this mess is we have Droid and Padraig posting in the same thread again?
 
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