Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Ah great, i look forward to reading that then

To me it was some obscure thing the bfi had dug up that about 30 people had probably seen
 

luka

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no, it was a blockbuster. massively famous. everyone on dissensus has watched it. it's a touchstone. like master and commander or rise of a footsoldier.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Love craner in that thread

He'll be annoyed to learn that I ALMOST watched a spaghetti western called "The Great Silence" but opted for this one instead
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
It made me wish there was more video documentaries about places I'd been when I was younger. If there was a documentary about Oxford in 1995, for example. Perhaps there is!
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I have a feeling if I watched the great silence I'd have really liked that too

I'm more Catholic, Papish in my taste, unlike you gloomy Protestants who made London a hellhole teehee
 

luka

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craner doesnt understand the film becasue a) he's not a Londoner and b) he's not intelligent and sophisticated enough
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
What it lacks that I suppose Craner misses is a general sense of life as something passionately lived, it's London as viewed through alienated eyes, mediated through an alienated voice, but it does subvert that viewpoint when e.g. "Robinson" asks the narrator if he's surprised the biggest street festival in Europe is in this antisocial city and the narrator replies that 1) only an antisocial city would have room for it and 2) that for many London isn't antisocial at all (juxtaposed with images of Notting hill carnival).

That use of a narrator and a mediator means that it can be both deeply serious (and miserable) about London but also wry and playful. To the extent that I almost wonder if the use of Beethoven over an image of a bonfire night fire is a joke about the pomposity of the narrator or a serious perception of tragic decline and waste in the city -- or both.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Also I don't think Craner likes films to be 'interesting' or thought provoking, he likes them to provoke passionate reaction. He'll now passionately attack me for misrepresenting him so unfairly.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Was this your heyday Luka?

I was thinking how there must have been raves going on outside the ken of the glum narrator
 
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