A Brooklyn Culture Mafia

shakahislop

shakahislop

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Leo said:
Yeah, the bookings make Cafe Oto look like Madison Sq. Garden. Mixed and HMG will love the admission policy too.
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to be fair, no fucking way am i going if i have to wear a mask. maybe its still on the website but not enforced, a bit more covid detritus.

the mask thing has taken a weird form here with some of the most out there places being the only bits of the city with mask policies, the other place like that is bluestockings (the leftie anarchist-y bookshop for everyone who doesn't have a niche knowldge of nyc book shops), the other week they told me i had to wear a mask to be in there. chelsea factory and some of the smaller dance/theatre places have it on their websites as well.
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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sus said:
www.nytimes.com

The Last Days of Beckett’s, a Smoky New York Literary Salon

They came. They drank. They staged plays and argued about Shakespeare. For dozens of up-and-coming writers, actors and artists, it was nice while it lasted.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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, as they say. although probably its really fun to be there. the story itself is gross as an artifact. that mythologisation of bohemia. which i thought was basically over now as a genre in the cold light of social media and podcasts etc. coz it relies on saying very little, leaving out details, mystery, leaving your imagination to fill in the gaps.
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

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shakahislop

shakahislop

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made it to shift in williamsburg. @Leo @sus would recommend. i think it's entirely improv jazz and things of the Wirey type. actually i think the dude in front of me might have been a Wire writer. it has that sort of DIY feeling, tiny room, maybe 70 people, $15 to get in, no amplification, just on the border of rich and hasidic williamsburg. attentive audience, feels like the kind of thing that might not last too long. there's a record shop in the front as well.

i keep thinking that everything in williamsburg has got washed away by the money wave crashing down onto it. but then i noticed yesterday in that part of town all the dominican or pureto rican (not sure) churches, all the places identifying themselves as part of 'los sures'. so maybe its the 00s hipster thing that got washed away, and not the world that came before that. its still interesting to me how the countercultural 80s and 90s thing in the east village managed to build institutions that stuck. i've been looking at the more indie dance and theatre worlds recently, and to a lesser extent the poetry world, and there's still a ton of places that cater to that downtown. whereas the 00s hipster thing which is nominally its successor has left next to nothing in williamsburg and greenpoint that i can see, everywhere that's mentioned in histories of that time is gone.

was reading about the gentrification of fort greene this weekend, which has gone under the radar of the dominent narrative because it was middle class black people moving into a working class black area. saul williams and spike lee. one of my friends lives there and fits the same demographic, privately educated and masters degree etc. also read in a different book about the hasidic guys and gals in south williamsburg getting squeezed further southwards by the money encroaching from the banker demographic to the north (actually exactly where Shift is), and at the same time expanding into exactly where Jay-Z was bought up in bed-stuy, which within the hasidic community is apparently called 'new williamsburg'. that is a mad mixing zone actually, where the hasidic thing and the marcy projects meet.

walking down brooklyn broadway yesterday some bellend was doing the fart exhaust thing in his car, pretty annoying, he got stopped at lights and there was an altercation with a passer by walking his dog (dude in the car was black, dude walking his dog was white). the dude in the car shouting at dog guy that he a) had a small dick and b) that he was bigoted for having a problem with the fart car muffler. and then threatened to drive back round the block, and that he lived here, and that he'd see him around. the bigoted bit was a good example of how sometimes identity stuff is leveraged in the US. the implication of violence another.....well i don't know what to say about that. it says something about how there's still this racialised fear of violence that's deep within US culture. everyone knows that. but also that probably if people are scared of you coz of what you look like, you can use that in situations like this.
 
luka

luka

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white people are way less scared of black people than when i was growing up. i think its partly to do with the east europeans moving in and terrorising everyone.
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

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catalog said:
do you think the bubble might have burst or are you still a believer?
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Oh the speculative bubble definitely burst, like it did in 2018 I think, and like it will probably do again. There were a few big market meltdowns that arguably drove the burst (TerraUSD, Three Arrows Capital, most notably FTX).
 
luka

luka

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who was that kid on here that never has to work again due to shrewd bitcoin speculation? was it satnav?
 
C

catalog

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@Clinamenic So are you no longer doing crypto as in coins? But still pursuing blockchain as a philosophical thing in terms of approaches to how to runs things or whatever. I can't even understand any of that
 
Leo

Leo

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shakahislop said:
made it to shift in williamsburg. @Leo @sus would recommend. i think it's entirely improv jazz and things of the Wirey type. actually i think the dude in front of me might have been a Wire writer. it has that sort of DIY feeling, tiny room, maybe 70 people, $15 to get in, no amplification, just on the border of rich and hasidic williamsburg. attentive audience, feels like the kind of thing that might not last too long. there's a record shop in the front as well.

i keep thinking that everything in williamsburg has got washed away by the money wave crashing down onto it. but then i noticed yesterday in that part of town all the dominican or pureto rican (not sure) churches, all the places identifying themselves as part of 'los sures'. so maybe its the 00s hipster thing that got washed away, and not the world that came before that. its still interesting to me how the countercultural 80s and 90s thing in the east village managed to build institutions that stuck. i've been looking at the more indie dance and theatre worlds recently, and to a lesser extent the poetry world, and there's still a ton of places that cater to that downtown. whereas the 00s hipster thing which is nominally its successor has left next to nothing in williamsburg and greenpoint that i can see, everywhere that's mentioned in histories of that time is gone.

was reading about the gentrification of fort greene this weekend, which has gone under the radar of the dominent narrative because it was middle class black people moving into a working class black area. saul williams and spike lee. one of my friends lives there and fits the same demographic, privately educated and masters degree etc. also read in a different book about the hasidic guys and gals in south williamsburg getting squeezed further southwards by the money encroaching from the banker demographic to the north (actually exactly where Shift is), and at the same time expanding into exactly where Jay-Z was bought up in bed-stuy, which within the hasidic community is apparently called 'new williamsburg'. that is a mad mixing zone actually, where the hasidic thing and the marcy projects meet.

walking down brooklyn broadway yesterday some bellend was doing the fart exhaust thing in his car, pretty annoying, he got stopped at lights and there was an altercation with a passer by walking his dog (dude in the car was black, dude walking his dog was white). the dude in the car shouting at dog guy that he a) had a small dick and b) that he was bigoted for having a problem with the fart car muffler. and then threatened to drive back round the block, and that he lived here, and that he'd see him around. the bigoted bit was a good example of how sometimes identity stuff is leveraged in the US. the implication of violence another.....well i don't know what to say about that. it says something about how there's still this racialised fear of violence that's deep within US culture. everyone knows that. but also that probably if people are scared of you coz of what you look like, you can use that in situations like this.
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sort of related, was reading this about how certain films drive gentrification.

It’s there in Do the Right Thing: “Who told you to buy a brownstone on my block, in my neighbourhood, on my side of the street?” Giancarlo Esposito demands of the white proto-hipster who has just run over his brand new Air Jordans. “What do you want to live in a black neighbourhood for anyway? Motherfuck gentrification!” (The white hipster turns out to have been born in Brooklyn.) Ironically, despite its grim conclusion, Do the Right Thing still made Brooklyn look like an attractive place to live. Other young, white hipsters would follow.
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www.theguardian.com

The romcom effect: will a new movie gentrify Peckham as Richard Curtis gentrified Notting Hill?

The likable new release Rye Lane bills itself as ‘a love letter to south London’. But, like Amélie in Montmartre, could it end up damaging the place it sets out to celebrate?
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

@Corpsey don't you live in Peckham? Is the article accurate?
 
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