nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
sturm und drang

While I sympathize with Lawrence's abhorrence of modernity and its valorization of abstraction above all else, I'm not sure that it makes sense to conceive of the metaphorical head as other-than-erogenous, somehow fragmented from the natural world that the loins inhabit. I would tend to consider the head a most vital part to the body's erotic whole, being its CPU, the unit into which all sensation, every bit of sensory information, flows to be processed, routed, and disseminated. (Even orgasms take shape in the brain, and culminate in a literal shutting down of function, a going-black and a near-total release second only to death…) Lawrence's failure to forestall his own lapse into a dualistic vitalism, to avoid what vitalists despise most, the notion that humans reside in the crevasse of a fundamental split in the natural order, was symptomatic of the contemporary modernist-humanist belief that homo sapiens were the centralmost being in the universe (destined to concur, subdue, and transcend nature via the powers of the mind)-- though Lawrence's own afflication with humanistic dualism apparently remained unfelt by him, in his being-thrown-into-modernity.

Here lies another point at which I diverge from Freud and (by extension) Lawrence: the notion of sublimation. For Freud all artwork, i.e. any abstractly human output, becomes just a placeholder for excess erotic energy that can find no other (physical, psychological) outlet. In this erotic universe, all desire is suspended by and rotates centripetally around phallic lack. This void becomes the central figure, hangs like our Sun gravitationally pulling everything toward it, in the Freudian developmental model of unfolding narrative selfhood, founded in the Ego, wherein the earliest events always overdetermine the remainder of the process. Each self, in order to become "civilized" performs on an Oedipal stage, in the theater of neurotic familial dependencies, for the benefit of an always absent but pressingly felt audience of others (society). All post-Oedipal erotic attachments can only be mere shadows of realer, more elemental relations-- the need for the body of the mother, the rival-father’s annoying presence, the sibling's absolute alterity. Eventually, children become parents and the play can be restaged. Generation after generation.

In The Rainbow, male characters are unable to erotically relate to their female counterparts in a non-neurotic fashion. Women are an unknowable abyss, both feared for their mysterious connection to the earth and revered for their sacral ties to the forces of nature. People on the most basic level of animal selfhood are mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters. These roles are the inexorable lot of humanity due to deep, dark, elemental forces that drive men (provide, protect, possess) and women (nurture, envelope, yield). Love itself is a moody, volatile set of dipolar intensities that as easily lowers lovers to blind rage and knawing jealousy as it elevates them to ecstasy and enlightenment. The destabilizing of the family and penetration of the rural landscape by technology, insofar as this tears people away from nature's elemental forces, is the ultimate horror for Lawrence. Without nature to ground them in their animal selfhood, his characters (especially the females) lose sight of their own happiness and satisfaction entirely.

Read as a reaction to Victorian hysteria about the body and its functions, and the enchroachment of industrialization and globalization on the natural order, Lawrence's work still resonates quite deeply today in the era of ecological crisis. He can take credit for very clearly perceiving the impending doom that the rise of unprecendently large and powerful machinic assemblages presaged. I wonder if it's perhaps very uncommon, the ability Lawrence had to diagnose the malady he himself suffered from deeply.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Is it possible to localise sexuality, to assign it to a part that can be named? For Lawrence, “head” and “loins” are distinguishable organs: each names, metaphorically as may be, the place of a particular organic function. “Sex in the head” is the name for sexuality out of its place, for the domination of one function (sexuality, the index of the “natural” being) by another (intellectuality, the distinguishing mark of the “civilised” individual), and the reciprocal subversion of the dominating force by the dominated. Lawrence’s mystical vitalism certainly extends as far as a “cosmic” or global sexuality, a sexuality of nature in which man qua natural being participates. But man does not participate in this global sexuality wholly, or without mediation: part of him (“the head”) is separated, kept in reserve. “The loins” exist as a determinate region, a neighbourhood of sexuality, precisely to the extent that “the head” exists and does not itself wholly and immediately participate in the sexual dance of the All. Man is the animal that imagines he has sexual parts, that names and covers them and declares their names to be unspeakable.

I've not read Lawrence myself, but from the last few posts in this thread I'm entertaining the idea that the "D.H." stood for "Dick/Head".
 
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nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
Gay I don't know if I could do, either. Being so rigid about things as to have a fixed orientation is hard work. And I'm lazy.

I'm so lazy that I can't be bothered to fix strange misspellings or typos.
 

mms

sometimes
if you're hearing voices and you have em under control, ie you're not going to harm anyone, or yourself then go to the doctor and ask for intervention with councelling such as cognitive behavioral therapy, if that doesnt work then maybe an anti psychotic.

if you think you may harm someone or yourself you need to go to the doctor again as you might need something a bit more serious.

where i work the atypical anti psychotic Clozaril has worked well with some of the schizophrenic ppl.
also cut down drink and drugs, exercise, get out a bit, all that good shit.
 
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empty mirror

remember the jackalope
the only sure method of psychic self defense is shutting your eyes, covering your ears with your paws and repeating "lalalalalalala".
 

rob_giri

Well-known member
I haven't actually read any of the responses or posts in this thread out of instant impulse to give me personal answer. Apologies if I disregard anyone's words.

Having spent many years studying this and related issues from the most critical yet receptive angle that my sanity and conscience could allow, I will attempt to answer in a way that I hope you will find as no-bullshit and succinctly comprehensible as possible


Your question relates to how to respond to invasive external stimulus and how to guard oneself from being subverted by negative influences that result in what we might call a 'power loss' - a 'leakage' of sorts from your field of energy.

I will use metaphors gleaned from the system in which Armenian philosopher G.I Gurdjieff used - a system synthesized from early christian, sufi, kabbalistic and hindu sources which I believe to this day offers the most critical and holistic view of the function and operation of our humanity - and also the philosophies and practices of Antero Alli and the late Christopher S Hyatt

As a human being, you are made up of a series of interconnected 'centers' - physical, instinctive, emotional, intellectual etc - that work independant from eachother - at times (and most of the time) mechanically and as a result of external influences - things happening 'through' you and as a result of you being pushed around by accidental influences like a sleeping automoton - and at other times directed by your conscious Will - times in which you are more or less connected to yourself and 'Awake' to yourself in a state of self-remembrance.

As open-ended entities it is part of our living responsibility to regulate the inflow of influences from the world around us, as we make our way through a world of dynamic living forces. Some forces will be noticeably beneficial, others noticeably malignant - and others somewhere in between. Being Critical is what that is all about - open yourself to much and you will be swept up in Bullshit, close yourself off too much and you will die a slow death from the inside, resisting the force of life and the beautiful bounty it has to offer for your learning and enjoyment.

It is quite clear that as we live in such massively accelerated times of information-saturation, where there are countless sources of conflicting information about What is Real, anyone who isn't truly Thinking for Themselves is surely loosing their minds, and anyone who isn't Guarding their Energy and their sexual impulses is surely being swept up in the Hypermedia Wars where advertising is specifically designed to play on the contanimated desires (the Freudian Id) and the heavily conditioned value-constructs (the Freudian Superego) which if not tended to Consciously, fight to the death as our Conscious Mind (the Freudian Ego) buckles from confusion as to what is right and what is real.

In short, if you are worried about your Animal Machinery being manipulated then you must Reclaim it well and truly for yourself and learn to Feed It yourself with your own stimulus (physical commitment, emotional commitment, intellectual commitment) - if you fail to do this then You Will Be Fed by the society and culture around you and not at all on your own terms - and as a result you will remain a slave to the values and stereotypes of Others which do not at all reflect the true value of your individual Essence

You must reunite with your body and fulfill it's central need to be Felt Deeply, re-define for yourself issues of safety, status, sanity and social values so that you can Direct your body, emotions and mind with your Will and embody the Innate Autonomy that is your birthright.

Divorcing from the body will not lead you anywhere - however dis-identifying with your body, emotions and mind will be helpful so long as you are Fully Engaged with their sensations, feelings and thoughts and have the commitment to Be The Observer of it all as it happens and have the commitment to live it all out. The key to real freedom from external influence is becoming more Engaged with your Body, Heart and Mind so that you are the one calling the shots and not the malignant forces around you which will feed off you and keep you from realizing your Own Center of Gravity as it is.

Disidentification is more or less the key - techniques to deal with this problem is what Gurdjieff called 'Internal Seperation'. Internal Seperation means, whilst in contact with your sensations and feelings, learning to step back from the disconnected and abstracted cycles of your mind and instead Feel the Reality where the mind had Speculated with Symbols. Self-Observation is the mental method of learning to watch yourself enough to catch yourself in the act of Reacting and being Led by Impulse (as in your feeling of being sexually manipulated) and then Disidentifying from that Level of being and then partake in the emotional exercise of Self-Remembrance - Feeling yourself and your Conscience enough to remember What To Do and then Directing your energy enough to be in Control of it's manifestations. This is when you reclaim Power for yourself, akin to taming a wild beast and then directing it and using it as your vehicle to get through the world. Fail to Tame it and take responsibility for it and you will forever be swept up by the chaos of its impulses, like being eaten alive by the force of your Lust.

Most methods of 'Psychic Self-Defense' are complete rubbish because they fail to address the issue which is most important - that you are tending to yourself and your Own Internal Guidance and Innate Conscience enough to not need to rely on external influences and external sources of Light and Heat, and are instead realizing your central place as the Creator of your Present and Future Life as You Know It. You are Star waiting to be born - Go !


Enjoy
 
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Ach!

Turd on the Run
there are many people tampering with my conciousness. they keep trying to plant sexual thoughts in my head. to link their product or service with a state of sexual arousal. i find this invasive.

You mean like this?

Thank you ChildOfTheBlogosphere.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
I will attempt to answer in a way that I hope you will find as no-bullshit and succinctly comprehensible as possible

hear hear!

You mean like this?

a better example is this:

burger-king-seven-inch-blow-job-ad.jpg
 

rob_giri

Well-known member
oh my fucking lord those ads are horrible.

As C.S Hyatt was fond of saying, Humans are apes and animals and as such their primary function in life is a very sophisticated form of Nesting, Digesting and Congesting. Advertising is nothing but manipulative methods of playing on the innate Oral-Anal-Sexual responses of humanity.

Lets hope that those with enough intelligence are learning to rely on their own internal sources of guidance so that our humanity can be saved from this dislocated and abstracted age of spiritual amnesia in which we now find ourselves in.
 
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