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no it absolutely punctured the Israeli sense of security attacks have always been a fact of Israeli life but at a manageable level. after all people felt safe enough living by the border, having a music festival within walking distance of the border. rocket attacks yes, but no one expected to...

btw in related news here in Chicago, a 71-year old man in the suburbs stabbed a 6-year old Palestinian boy to death and critically wounded his mother while shouting "all you Muslims need to die", so good work all the RW shitheels on social media etc...

and one other thing I've been thinking about is Mohammed Deif. almost his entire family has been killed in airstrikes, he's living down in these tunnels. he's been fighting the Israelis his entire adult life. it has to give you a certain perspective on the world. this is pure speculation...

it's different in some ways from 9/11 of course, but in that way it is a good comparison and even tho the Israelis can achieve something concrete - obliterating Hamas - in another way they can't bc they can't obliterate the idea of Palestinian liberation the issue w/responding to WTC was that...

absolutely, yes the worst terrorist attack in Israeli history, the worst security failure in Israeli history, by an enormous margin they did it on the anniversary of 1973, the previous worst security failure in Israeli history, a milestone that wrought huge changes in Israeli society

that's also why, I suspect, Hezbollah has been doing just enough to keep up appearances and satisfy honor but avoiding serious provocations, and why it will keep doing that. 2006 was a tremendous victory bc Hezbollah demonstrated it could make the cost too high for the Israelis to pay, but this...

of course. I thought that was implied or I would have said so. I agree anyway. to expand on the other two normal brakes the Israeli govt is also operating domestically in a very strange and specific "window of legitimacy". by all accounts I've seen/heard there is massive and widespread anger...

well yeah ofc, when referring to international pressure on Israel it has always meant the U.S. and to a lesser extent Western Europe "the international community" is always whoever is relevant to and has power to influence a particular issue so China is definitely part of the international...

not to say this is right for the Kurds, or Palestinians or whoever, but I would note that this is exactly what did happen in Israel, with the social engineering but without the civil war. Mizrahi, Yemeni, etc Jews were assimilated into the Ashkenazi-run state after 1948. ofc they mostly arrived...

This is very important I think, and speaks to viewing Hamas's actions in terms of its own goals - to make occupation unsustainable, and to demonstrate that to its backers - vs Iran's, or any other backer's the policy of indefinite occupation has always been an impossible one, but turning...

that was my initial thought, and I still think it must be true, but one of the interesting points in the interview Danny linked was that Hamas itself may have been caught off guard by the success of its attack. I have no doubt that Hamas leadership has been preparing for the inevitable massive...

Also I'll just repeat obligatory disclaimer that one is always forced to make in re Isr/Pal to stave off whataboutism Doesn't matter how many times you make it, always gonna be some chud yelling "but what about the -Arab- govts? Checkmate, liberal" yes, they're bad

Yeah definitely done with you after this, just have to note it really made laugh that this is the second time you've responded to being told you have no idea what the hell you're talking about by specifically attacking reading books (or I'm sorry, "books") as pretentious, which is hilarious...

Yeah I will if I can sit down later with a laptop. It's too complicated to type on a phone.

Like I said T this guy is so ignorant it's not really worth engaging with

The SA apartheid comparison isn't 1:1 across the board but in that element it pretty much is Palestinians working in Israel bc economic opportunities in Gaza are slim to none and people have to make a living /= liking or supporting the Israeli govt

That is literally impossible. The Rafah crossing, the only way to go into Egypt, has been closed for days. Even if were open, it could only handle an infinitesimal fraction of the people trying to flee, let alone in the next 24 hours. The Israeli govt is fully aware of this, as is anyone with...

Btw Dan I also have a response to this, I personally didn't find it very incisive, or at least it had serious issues. I'll try to get to it later. The more abstract stuff is definitely still as important as ever but it doesn't feel that way rn.

Or idk maybe I'm just fearing the worst but it sure as hell seems like it

It'll be Lebanon 82 but 1000x worse