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    Good goal though yeah, just checked it on youtube.

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    Busquets hasn't looked that good in years actually.

    He's a true pivot. Can't do much on his own but brilliant when there's stuff going on around him. When the ball and the players are all moving in and out of the middle area, he'll get the ball and find the pass that no-one else has seen. But when there isn't much going on around him, he's really no use because everybody can see everything.

    I'm very positive about Setien.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/football...phical-matters

    "Arsenal’s defence posed an interesting philosophical question. Could it be the case that a David Luiz-shaped hole, the absence of David Luiz, is more defensively resilient than the actual, material David Luiz? Is the hypothetical David Luiz, an entity best expressed as (David Luiz – David Luiz) more effective as a defensive rallying point than the real thing?"

    Arsenal's mental fragility is fascinating. Even more fascinating now when contrasted against Liverpool, who have found a way to keep on finding a way to win all season.

    Torreira was meant to fix it, a Vieira update, and instead gradually started to succumb to a mystery virus affecting his ability not to mentally collapse. I can appreciate David Luiz's footballing talents, but the idea that Arsenal actually thought he would provide defensive steel is mystifying - it's too perfect of a bad decision to be true.
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    I like how with Arsenal especially you get a very strong sense of a football teams character being a product not just of players and manager but the entire structure of fans and board and history and etc. Magic.

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    It's like the club is under a 20-year curse. Klopp or Guardiola could come in and it would still be a disaster. They could sign Messi and he'd be a clown within months.

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    Yeah it's Theseus' Ship where you can change every single component but it's still the same ship (or philosopher's axe or Trigger's broom - whatever).

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    But when did the curse start? Arsenal were at one stage the epitome of resilience. It must have been aroundabout the time that they moved to the Emirates, which is obviously situated on some unholy ancient burial ground.

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    It's weird that they were known for grinding out crappy wins and so on - "Boring Boring Arsenal" and "One nil to the Arsenal" - for years under Graham... then under Wenger they reinvented themselves as this bunch of effete fancy dans who stroked the ball around like a proto-Barca with Henry scoring beautiful goals. And then they somehow regressed to being pretty much a shadow of both these former selves. Playing much less attractive football and regularly slumping to five goal spannerings.

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    It's a bit of a biopic when you put it like that - starts off with dull, reasonably successful life, then ascends into the stratosphere through the patronage of a mysterious Frenchman, but it can't last and his life falls apart in painstakingly humiliating fashion. Directed by Tommy Wiseau.

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    Problem is football doesn't end like a film... it just goes on and on with Arsenal drifting at their lowest ebb.

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    Maybe there needs to be a fourth act

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    Of course it can happen that things change (obviously we missed the first twenty acts)... but slowly slowly in my experience. Unless they get bought by some random billionaire obviously. Don't see that happening with Arsenal though - they are not glamorous enough to confer instant respect and not lowly enough that a new owner could claim sole credit for anything that did happen.

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    I really want to see Troopz from Arsenal Fan TV become manager. He would sack all of the players by Monday. And organise the Emirates exorcism. A proper filmic ending.

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    Troopz is the biggest star Arsenal have developed in the last what... ten years? I mean in a way that's not true, Sanchez was fantastic for them, Aubameyang is turning in world class performances for them even now... and yet what does it add up to?

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    Supposedly Messi's just become the first player in the history of Spanish football to win 500 club matches.

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