Leo

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Pols are all the same: it's never their own fault, always blaming someone else -- usually some vague, shadowy "other" group -- for their failures. I wonder if comebacks would be easier if they just admitted they were wrong and came up with a different approach. Maybe their egos don't allow for that.
 

Leo

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just saw the guardian coverage of the Torygraph article

“I have lost track of how many people have written to me or approached me since leaving Downing Street to say that they believe my diagnosis of the problems causing our country’s economic lethargy was correct and that they shared my enthusiasm for the solutions I was proposing,” she said.

Urm...yeah, that's bullshit. if they actually "shared [her] enthusiasm for the solutions [she] was proposing", they would have backed her at the time. but they didn't, and didn't.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Truss and Armie Hammer neck and neck for most ambitious comeback.

the neck on Truss

i have tried to think about her sexually but it just ain’t happening, too angular features, extremely thin lips and where confusion arrives with a bouncy chest it compounds any feminine sense of humanity or grace

vacuous but too funny a downfall to ignore, Truss the Succubus but you witness her grandstanding as a younger woman and it’s like a slightly less awkward William Hague

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if only she’d known, wouldn’t have made any difference

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and imagine raising this

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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Yeah, she's just published an article in The Telegraph blaming the "left-wing economic establishment," and she's got a filmed interview with The Spectator coming up.
After 18 years of Conservative governments under Thatcher and Major, 13 years of basically neoliberal Labour governments under Blair and Brown, and a further 13 years of Torydom since then, the extent to which the iron fist of socialism still stifles UK economic policy is pretty remarkable.
 

craner

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Yeah, she's just published an article in The Telegraph blaming the "left-wing economic establishment," and she's got a filmed interview with The Spectator coming up.

I just brought it. It's a 4000 word essay spread across pages 4-5.

Absolutely iconic.

I will read and dissect it this week.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah, she's just published an article in The Telegraph blaming the "left-wing economic establishment," and she's got a filmed interview with The Spectator coming up.
Yes that line jumped out to everyone as particularly loony-tunes even in an article that could have come from The Monster Raving Loony Party
 

Leo

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Hard to tell if politicians live in an alternate reality and actually believe that sort of nonsense, or if they've just go the post-truth route and are fine with claiming whatever they want, regardless of how ridiculous and easily disproven it might be.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
rm...yeah, that's bullshit. if they actually "shared [her] enthusiasm for the solutions [she] was proposing", they would have backed her at the time. but they didn't, and didn't.
You have highly visible think-tanks such as the Bruges Group backing her along with their increasingly shrill demands that become further disconnected from economic reality every day

As well as pretending Truss was right, they are also demanding that the UK diverges in standards from the EU - which would make our products illegal in the EU and literally make it impossible for us to trade with them. It literally is insane.

I get that we are now in the nightmare situation that Maggie Thatcher correctly identified as untenable where we have to accept the EU rules for our goods but have no say in making those rules. Awkwardly for these nutters, their hero solved that problem by joining the EU, not giving up on trade.

The mask has slipped now and the BG are not even pretending to be interested in the welfare of the British people, they are nakedly advocating to the advantage of their shadowy backers.

They are mms away from demanding the abolition of tax, the NHS and any sort of social support, along with the sterilization of the working class and taking away the right to vote from anyone who earns less than 100k a year.
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Yes that line jumped out to everyone as particularly loony-tunes even in an article that could have come from The Monster Raving Loony Party
I liked the bit in that speech she gave when she was prime minister for about forty seconds where she described how miserable the 1980s was for much of the country, and then said "What we need is more Thatcherism" to solve similar problems today.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Pols are all the same: it's never their own fault, always blaming someone else -- usually some vague, shadowy "other" group -- for their failures. I wonder if comebacks would be easier if they just admitted they were wrong and came up with a different approach. Maybe their egos don't allow for that.
I saw some advice the other day which said "It's easy to blame other people for your problems - so do it".
 
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sufi

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Hard to tell if politicians live in an alternate reality and actually believe that sort of nonsense, or if they've just go the post-truth route and are fine with claiming whatever they want, regardless of how ridiculous and easily disproven it might be.
This cheerful article suggests the first option
 
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Hard to tell if politicians live in an alternate reality and actually believe that sort of nonsense, or if they've just go the post-truth route and are fine with claiming whatever they want, regardless of how ridiculous and easily disproven it might be.

Happy birthday.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
the neck on Truss

It seems to be a Tory trait, whatever your crime, as long as you resign for a couple of months you can come back and act as though you never did anything wrong. And this is a tricky area cos I'm not saying that any single transgression that end of your career, but...

Pritti Patel was fired by May for disobeying her direct orders in Israel, she secretly met with the Israeli government against the wishes her PM, that's fucking treason isn't it? And she compounded it by hiding it, then lying to say that she had been given permission from the Foreign Secretary (Boris Johnson) - and then she had to admit that that wasn't true and resigned in disgrace. That should have been the end of her - yet staggeringly, when May resigned Johnson brought her back as Home Secretary. Absolutely disgusting, I don't understand how that was allowed to happen or why people didn't make more fuss about it

That cunt Liam "the cunt" Fox was another who slimed his way back in after he took advantage of official visits to bring his secret boyfriend along and help him get preferential business deals by implying he was part of the delegation. Resigned in disgrace - again it was a matter of dishonestly taking advantage of the country which should have been the end, however a year or so later he's standing to be the leader and only his lack of popularity stemming from his extraordinary cuntishness stopped him winning.

As well as that you have Hunt who never even bothered to resign when his leaked texts revealed he was advising the Murdochs on how best to get round his own monopolies commission and its rules & is still hanging around the cabinet like a bad stench

With Johnson promoting gropers and trying to change the rules so his friend didn't have to resign when caught breaking them, not to mention his own fines and... etc etc

I can sort of see why Truss thinks to herself "Fuck it, it's been a few weeks since my utterly disastrous premiership in which I crashed the stock market, increased the deficit by billions, added crippling costs for mortgage holders, performed countless humiliating U-turns and lost a fight with a lettuce, I reckon I can stand for the role of leader when Rishi resigns".

Now she's saying that she wasn't given a chance, perhaps forgetting that if she'd carried on at that rate for a few more days there probably would be have been no UK left to lead... or perhaps she is simply incapable of grasping such a complex concept.

At least she has the backing of the shady student who was mysteriously given almost 3/4 of a million by BeLeave and who escaped a fine for breaking the rules by successfully and convincingly arguing that he was too stupid to understand them.

I have a great deal of sympathy for ⁦Lizz Truss She sought to exploit the opportunities of Brexit in the face of much resistance from Treasury orthodoxy. Taking taxes back to what it was under Blair isn’t ‘radical’. Both her diagnosis and proposed prescription was spot on.
As an aside, a lot of right-wing commentators often further to the benefits or opportunities of Brexit without being able to expand refer. What was good about Brexit? Well we got Brexit benefits? But what are they? They're Brexit opportunities... etc
 

Leo

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ah, that link hits a paywall but I managed to get to the FT article by clicking the twitter post
 
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