computer_rock
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haddaway reappraisal
90s revival: starting prices
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Which would still be tenuously associated to some long forgotten 90's fad by lazy journalists no doubt
connect_icut
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Is there some stuff that's too inherently uncool to get revived in the usual 20-year time-frame? I mean, prog was primarily a '70s phenomenon but it didn't really get revived until the '00s. Maybe the same will be true of Orb-style ambient house.
nomos
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yeah i was just trying to be clever
yes there's some truth in this definitely. also while 'innovators' will get their dues earlier (usually around 10-15 years), revivals normally end with those who didn't really care much for innovation, just wanted to make a lush, polished version of existing music. Like for the 70s, krautrock was revived in the late 80s whilst now it's all fleetwood & steely dan
connect_icut
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All very true. Actually, ambient house probably was the ironic '90s prog revival. Maybe the influence of scenes and genres comes through in a mediated form first - either as a key influence on a fundamentally new genre or in jokey, ironic form (ambient house was a prog revival in both of these senses). Then, maybe the influence re-emerges, uncut about 10 years later (although, for all the people bigging-up prog, I can't think of anyone actually playing it straight up right now).
Perhaps dubstep is a foreshadowing of the '90s revival - '90s influences mediated through a fundamentally new sound. (More speculatively, perhaps wonky is the ironic rave-influenced equivalent.) In any case, it seems significant how much left-field dubstep artists like Shackleton owe to UK post-rock types like Kevin Martin and Mick Harris and that both those people have been making very dusbteppy music recently - King Midas Sound's Waiting for You and Scorn's Stealth.
How much talk about prog is there? Not denying it's there, I know a lot of stuff has come up for hip reappraisal in the last few years. Diagonal are pretty good anyway, and definitely wear their prog on their sleeves.
Also on the dubstep connections Appleblim's old band were a bit post-rock and prog too.
Also on the dubstep connections Appleblim's old band were a bit post-rock and prog too.
Stuff that sounds like rave, trip-hop, shoegazer all definitely around already, not sure if that constitutes a revival of any sort yet.
I reckon it'll be more trad Madchester shit, grunge, etc. At least that'll get the mainstream attention. If it's anything like the 80s revivalism it'll take towards the end of the decade before any of the pop norms get thoroughly entrenched.
I dunno. I know this is probably screamingly obvious, but it's not like trends conform to decades at all anyway, so it's a bit confusing to me how to measure when a trend "really" took place, either the first time or as a revival. For example was the big comeback of Euro synthpop type sounds electroclash stuff around 2000 or the total mainstreaming of those kind of sounds into e.g. Rihanna, Beyonce singles years later? *shrug* I'm actually not sure I give a shit.
I reckon it'll be more trad Madchester shit, grunge, etc. At least that'll get the mainstream attention. If it's anything like the 80s revivalism it'll take towards the end of the decade before any of the pop norms get thoroughly entrenched.
I dunno. I know this is probably screamingly obvious, but it's not like trends conform to decades at all anyway, so it's a bit confusing to me how to measure when a trend "really" took place, either the first time or as a revival. For example was the big comeback of Euro synthpop type sounds electroclash stuff around 2000 or the total mainstreaming of those kind of sounds into e.g. Rihanna, Beyonce singles years later? *shrug* I'm actually not sure I give a shit.
this would be a great album title... maybe for a 90s compilation of bands that began then and are still going now.... Motown Junk could be on there, some of the early Blur songs (that one with the girl on the hippo), Autechre...
swears
preppy-kei
http://thequietus.com/articles/03361-oneohtrix-point-never-rifts-album-review
Early 90s ambient/new age revivalism. This album is class, btw.
Early 90s ambient/new age revivalism. This album is class, btw.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
I want a shoegaze/early post-rock revival. We need more stuff that sounds like Slowdive and Bark Psychosis. Don't we?
And I must second the Haddaway reappraisal. We just ignored that man because he was asking questions we didn't know how to answer. That shit was deep.
And I must second the Haddaway reappraisal. We just ignored that man because he was asking questions we didn't know how to answer. That shit was deep.
swears
preppy-kei
Justice recently did a remix of one of his tunes, tres chic.
woops
is not like other people
pay attention - there is no music it's all based on african drums.
if you disagree you are a RACIST