if New York can die so can London

Mr. Tea

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Possibly relevant here, if you can credit it:


The results were mixed. While 30 percent disagreed that clubs should stay closed until the pandemic is "under control worldwide," 46 percent believed clubs should delay reopening by another month. Perhaps the most striking statistic was that 26 percent of people think nightclubs should never reopen. The age group most in favour was 16-24-year-olds (40 percent). Conversely, 52 percent disagreed with the motion, with 55-75-year-olds making up the largest group (60 percent).
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boxedjoy

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60% of an age group who never experienced them the way that they should be experienced feeling that they're pointless almost makes sense. I don't get the mindset of "it's not for me so nobody else should enjoy it" but they probably asked some old Tories who want a return to the days of hetero couples in dance halls dancing to mid-tempo disco and home by midnight.
 
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catalog

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It doesn't actually surprise me that much. When I was doing a lot of clubbing in 2017/18, I was hanging out a bit with young people and it becomes clear that a lot of them didn't really enjoy clubs as social spaces, basically fraught with issues for them, for various reasons.

I think it's harder these days to enjoy wilful abandon in the way you might need or want to. The whole social media after party checkup, like how people would do these full on deconstruction of the night.

There are still tons of young people going out and having it in various ways, I just don't think it's happening in clubs in quite the same way as it was 20 years ago.
 
Mr. Tea

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catalog said:
It doesn't actually surprise me that much. When I was doing a lot of clubbing in 2017/18, I was hanging out a bit with young people and it becomes clear that a lot of them didn't really enjoy clubs as social spaces, basically fraught with issues for them, for various reasons.

I think it's harder these days to enjoy wilful abandon in the way you might need or want to. The whole social media after party checkup, like how people would do these full on deconstruction of the night.

There are still tons of young people going out and having it in various ways, I just don't think it's happening in clubs in quite the same way as it was 20 years ago.
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I suppose that might be true - it's been, ooh, roughly 20 years since I routinely hung out with 20-year-olds - but "It's not for me" is still a long way from "it should be banned".
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

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I'm no good at the maths, but how much is 40% of 26% from a sample size of 1025? About 100 people?

Also, how did they conduct this poll? Was it voluntary or did they approach people?

If the 1025 people they polled all read The Economist the chances are those little tykes are unfamiliar with the joys of queuing up at the bar for 20 minutes to buy a vodka and red bull for 8 quid.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

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I do wonder if COVID has permanently turned a lot of people off going out, though.

Obviously there's a sizeable contingent who can't wait to get back in the pub but personally I found that it made me even less inclined than ever before to go out to a busy, loud, overpriced place where your chances of getting punched are higher than 0.000001%.

I was already becoming a hermit before COVID though so I'm not a reliable sample.
 
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"74 percent of UK citizens think clubs should reopen... " isn't a headline that's gonna drive clicks.

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Mr. Tea

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Corpsey said:
Also, how did they conduct this poll? Was it voluntary or did they approach people?
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I think for things like this they always select people at random. I don't know how else they'd find even a hundred 16-24-year-olds who read The Economist.
 
luka

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1 month ago

Too late, the cultures of African Americans and Puerto Ricans are already replaced with brand new immigrants.... the culture and vibe that made NY so fly is gone





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1 month ago

@Here is Ayana completely gone. lol that’s why ATL is the new hotspot for black entertainment





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1 month ago

@Clockwork yes it's sad.... East Harlem used to be more Puerto Ricans too..... that's when it was dope
 
wektor

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luka said:
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1 month ago

Too late, the cultures of African Americans and Puerto Ricans are already replaced with brand new immigrants.... the culture and vibe that made NY so fly is gone





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Clockwork

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1 month ago

@Here is Ayana completely gone. lol that’s why ATL is the new hotspot for black entertainment





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Here is Ayana

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@Clockwork yes it's sad.... East Harlem used to be more Puerto Ricans too..... that's when it was dope
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whom did they get replaced by?
 
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