Ukraine, Russia etc.

luka

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my mistake, 2004. i didnt even know we were going in 2004
 

luka

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luka

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luka

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william_kent

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oops, wrong thread

just that WORLD ENEMY NO 1 is now USA

Russia in second place
China third
North Korea trailing in fourth position
 

Benny Bunter

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The US bailed us out in two world wars and we never paid them back. They've never forgotten that, and all our sucking up to them since means nothing to them. We're nothing to them now, and the sooner realise that, the better.
 

Benny Bunter

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If one good thing comes out of all this, it could be the death of the 'special relationship' lie that we've stupidly bought into for decades.
 

Mr. Tea

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If one good thing comes out of all this, it could be the death of the 'special relationship' lie that we've stupidly bought into for decades.
I know we don't see eye to eye about Ukraine, but I agree with you here. It's sobering to think how different the last 20 years of UK politics could have been if Blair had had the balls to say no to GWB about Iraq. Or rather, the intelligence to realise he was being used as a fig leaf. The outcome for Iraq would have been much the same, as the neocons were going to get rid of Saddam sooner or later.

But Blair would probably never have become PM in the first place without that messianic self-belief that made it inevitable he'd want to help free Iraq from the wicked baddie.
 

Benny Bunter

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We've made a mess of every foreign intervention we've done since at least Blair, all we've ever done is make things worse. The US leads us into these things, gets bored and then leaves everyone else to clean up the mess, Ukraine is no different. And we never learn.
 

Mr. Tea

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I think the NATO missions that the UK took part in against Milosevic are generally regarded as having prevented another genocide.

A lot of Kosovans seemed to think it was a good idea, anyway.

 

luka

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Thats a composite of all dagestani ufc fighters. Not a psychotic war crminal jihadi gangster
 

mixed_biscuits

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