version

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9/11 truthers are fairly few tbh (or were anyway) though they wouldn't have met before the internet. I think think of them like pick up artists, minimal numbers subcultures that wouldn't really exist otherwise.

An analogy I've come across is that every village had an idiot but they were contained within their village and designated the idiot. The internet allowed the idiots to find each other and set up their own villages where everyone was an idiot and there was nobody to tell them they were idiots.
 

version

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Yeah, the only thing really comparable in the USA's history was probably Pearl Harbour. Except that that was an attack on a remote outpost, not in the heart of the country's de-facto capital, and was committed by a powerful rival nation-state, as opposed to just a bunch of guys.

And you couldn't watch footage of Pearl Harbor 24/7.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
An analogy I've come across is that every village had an idiot but they were contained within their village and designated the idiot. The internet allowed the idiots to find each other and set up their own villages where everyone was an idiot and there was nobody to tell them they were idiots.
Well Dissensus is clearly the village comprised of philosopher kings.
 

version

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Well Dissensus is clearly the village comprised of philosopher kings.
giphy.webp
 

Leo

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enjoying these Times reports

Mr. Lukashenko said he discussed with Mr. Putin the possibility of killing the Wagner chief and that he had urged Mr. Putin not to rush his response, assuring him that “a bad peace is better than any war.” He said he then phoned Col. Gen. Yunus-bek Yevkurov, who was on the grounds of the Southern Military Command, and asked him to hand the phone to Mr. Prigozhin.

"The first round, 30 minutes, was spoken in swear language,” he said. “It was exceptional. There were 10 times more swear words — I later analyzed — than normal vocabulary.” During his conversations, Mr. Lukashenko said he told Mr. Prigozhin that the Russian president would “squash him like a bug.”

Mr. Lukashenko said that Mr. Prigozhin and his comrades were in a “half-mad state” after witnessing so much death on the front line.
 

luka

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Fair point I still think Iraq created huge levels of public distrust. Rightly so, really. Those in charge lied so they could prosecute a war of aggression.
i don't think it created conspiracists or was a pathway into loopy-looness in anything like the same way though. the effects are quite different i would say
 

version

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During his conversations, Mr. Lukashenko said he told Mr. Prigozhin that the Russian president would “squash him like a bug.”

Somewhat unconvincing on Putin's part when he's disappeared and it's Lukashenko having to issue the threats.
 

version

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i need some puns about taking prigorshuns?

like if putin was worried about his army's loyalty he should have taken Prigozhin's

I could see The Sun running with something like PUTIN HIS PANTS: MAD VLAD NOT SO BIG BAD.
 

DannyL

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i don't think it created conspiracists or was a pathway into loopy-looness in anything like the same way though. the effects are quite different i would say
What would you say they were? I don't think it necessarily led to conspiracism either, more large scale distrust.
 
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