I actually think the Putin regime does have a plan, it looks like the Russian army is advancing from all sides, however slowly, and they will destroy whatever they want to destroy and push us to the brink of nuclear war. But they will not survive this war, unless they kill us all. No way they will.
Russia Surrounded
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shakahislop
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i'm not very pro- protracted conflict. which is why i keep going on about the public reaction to this at the moment. its going to make it a bit easier for europe and the US to come in heavily on the ukranian side. the unpopularity of overseas wars has been a real constraint on western governments getting involved over the last decade or so. i'd say that constraint has been a good thing, all things considered, though of course its never clear cut.
woops
is not like other people
let's coin the term NUKRAINE just in case?
The European nations may be conflicted and lazy, etc., but they are not among the richest and most influential nations on Earth for nothing, or by accident; this is the first time since the Second World War that they have detected a real threat, and they have closed like a vice.
Nukrainer
Vimothy has neglected to read Putin’s seminal essay ‘On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians’ and has therefore failed to understand the dynamics of this war and its relation to the world and to history.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I find it hard to see a way in which Russia wins, just tactically. How will they occupy in the long term? In Syria, they had a compliant government with solid loyalist support in many areas, and even now, they still don't control the whole of the country and they've effectively bombed it back into the stone age. This damages your ability to project power, obiously. Power isn't just military might and Russia seem to lack any of the cooperation needed to exercise it successfully. Their current actions are just going to harden the hatred against them.
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vimothy
yurp
coward!
vimothy
yurp
i think there are two problems with the sanctions regime the west has responded with: firstly, the sanctions might paradoxically strengthen putin; secondly, the sanctions might paradoxically weaken the alliance against him. a further problem is the increasing possibility of all sides being drawn into direct conflict.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
I can see how targeted sanctions can have collateral damage and nth order effects that hurt the western alliance, but I don't see how they could ultimately make Putin stronger.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
The infuriating thing is that the country best placed to enforce sanctions that would really hurt the oligarchy but - and I could be totally wrong here - wouldn't do too much harm to ordinary Russians is the UK, and it seems as if we've so far done the least of basically any Western country.
This is not really about Russians
To put intolerable pressure on the regime that rules them and launched this insane ethnic war, fucking hell keep up