Hang on a minute, what's this on the first page?
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Beyond Soul.
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sadmanbarty
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first post in the thread after luke's introductory one.
oh christ i figured it out you're the bloke who made this innit. i found a bbc 1xtra take over the other day and there were bare indie voices in post-nuum. that was you all along!
On the + side i rate ur business acumen at least you can rest on your laurels for a while. i guess you have 5 more years left in EDM and then you're retiring? Or are you gonna be a gary neville.
sadmanbarty
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you've got me down to a t there third.
pattycakes_
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I don't think anyone has totally nailed it yet so the jury is still out. It's too broad a word and means different things to different people. Anne Clarke - Our Darkness is a pretty good soulful EBM track imo. Or is that more synthpop/new wave? No idea.. Lowride definitely packs a soulful wallop. That piano is so bittersweet.
What soul are you talking about?
sadmanbarty
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'soul' is people from the 90's yearning for the 70's.
sadmanbarty
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£500ish quid for instagram live videos (59 seconds)
£1000 for 2-10 minutes
£1000 for long ambient things (usualy 20mins-30 mins)
im not anti-soul im just the machine funkateer. and ultimately the most disciplined funk is anti-human in its magnetic forcefield proportions.
I am anti sincerity (if soul is equated with a rockist notion of sincerity) though in the 2010s. in that sense I don't seek out metal that is too melodically finicky or prissy. I don't like indie pop and indie folk. none of that. it's all so aggressively clinically tonal.
My contention is that whilst soul is the preacher, funk is the teacher, and we need more teaching and less preaching in these turbulent times. we gotta handle the new recruits with care. we can't love em to the bone like cooked food yet.
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pattycakes_
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Keep hearing about barty's drumming and production but have yet ot hear any of it. He even promised he'd record and upload himself drumming in one thread. Tsk I say.
pattycakes_
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@thirdform that doesn't really answer the question. I'll rephrase: What soul do you think we need less of?
sadmanbarty
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i've always been perplexed by third's ostensible identity. how can a bloke who says he's my age have such open grievances with 'soul boys'? why would a kurd be so proud of there turkish identity?
but now it all makes sense. he's a 65 year old from new orleans. looks like dick gregory
sadmanbarty
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we've done it! we finally agree!
pattycakes_
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An enigma wrapped in a riddle
there is a contradiction here:
Some people are saying mcdonalds soul is not soul music because it isn't sincerely emotional or whatever. On the contrary I am saying it is. I am saying that capitalism wants to think we're human outside of its mechanisms, that it hasn't subjected everything to quantification. this is how it perpetuates ideologies left and right wing. Politics becomes a modulation that can be abandoned at will or when convenient.
It is not soul in the afro-american sense, but neither do the infrastructures existing in the black communities in the united states exist in the same way in the 21st century.
Jill Scott is correctly called neo-soul (in a rhythm and blues continuum.) I am not here to discuss her merits or demerits here. FTR I find her nice to listen to. sometimes it works sometimes bit boring. simple. like some broken beat and kirk degiorgio. not music for all occasions because of its backwards tinted purism but I can dig it. nothing more left to say.
And this is where my gripe with a lot of metal comes in. It's a soulful anger that capitalism modulates. I am human, please appreciate my dexterity and technical prowess. When my mum says this shit you listen to all sounds the same and is made by machines, that's fucking fantastic, that's exactly what I want her to say. I'm not interested in people who have a righteous anger and work for justice and a contemptible cause, I'm interested in killing machines raised on a diet of bizzy B. this is the only way the revolution will succeed.
Communists have no constitutions to propose, they only have those which must be destroyed!
Some people are saying mcdonalds soul is not soul music because it isn't sincerely emotional or whatever. On the contrary I am saying it is. I am saying that capitalism wants to think we're human outside of its mechanisms, that it hasn't subjected everything to quantification. this is how it perpetuates ideologies left and right wing. Politics becomes a modulation that can be abandoned at will or when convenient.
It is not soul in the afro-american sense, but neither do the infrastructures existing in the black communities in the united states exist in the same way in the 21st century.
Jill Scott is correctly called neo-soul (in a rhythm and blues continuum.) I am not here to discuss her merits or demerits here. FTR I find her nice to listen to. sometimes it works sometimes bit boring. simple. like some broken beat and kirk degiorgio. not music for all occasions because of its backwards tinted purism but I can dig it. nothing more left to say.
And this is where my gripe with a lot of metal comes in. It's a soulful anger that capitalism modulates. I am human, please appreciate my dexterity and technical prowess. When my mum says this shit you listen to all sounds the same and is made by machines, that's fucking fantastic, that's exactly what I want her to say. I'm not interested in people who have a righteous anger and work for justice and a contemptible cause, I'm interested in killing machines raised on a diet of bizzy B. this is the only way the revolution will succeed.
Communists have no constitutions to propose, they only have those which must be destroyed!
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