yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
all the big news outlets probably already have their breaking news russia invasion story typed out, their fingers eager to push the button and put it online
 

wild greens

Well-known member
There will be no war they will let it happen

Putin has watched the west ignore China's Uyghyr situation because it is easier to pretend it doesnt exist to allow the world economy to flow, and thought I'll have a bit of that thank you

That's what i reckon anyway
 

version

Well-known member
There's a certain glee behind some people's predictions of riots this winter. There's a will to see something.

I'm a way into High-Rise atm and seems I picked a particularly apt time to read it.
 

shakahislop

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There's a certain glee behind some people's predictions of riots this winter. There's a will to see something, anything, shake things up.

I'm a way into High-Rise atm and seems I picked a particularly apt time to read it.
part of the 'no-one is going to have money for heating this winter' thing that's going on at the moment is this as well i think. people want to see what it's like when someone as basic and fundamental as energy stops working so smoothly. i think this is one of the contours or underlying drives of the blanket media coverage (only one of them, there's a lot of other more obvious reasons as well)

especially post-covid, even if we are in the weird phase of no-one wanting to talk about or reflect on that truly incredible and exceptional experience, everyone realizes now at some level that these major things that we take for granted can change
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
With the hyper-anxiety of the Enviro-Social Sword of Damocles™ hanging over all of our heads, it's understandable that people start to become reckless and impulsive. The last 20 years or so have been an exponentially intensifying psychological torture session for most of the planet, and especially the developed world. Which easily leads you to a 'rather something happen now than this drip drip drawn out shit,' yknow?

Bit of the old death drive sprinkled on top for good measure.

George Carlin had that bit about loving it when there were explosions on the news. Imagine living your whole life in the states with their brain-smashing TV style. You'd grow a sick addiction to the heightened arousal (probably moreso pre internet mainstreamification.)

Shit's built-in. Negativity and especially high-intensity negativity sells newspapers, attracts clicks, etc. Marketing experts will tell you the same. I wouldn't judge anyone for entertaining these thoughts at all. It's cathartic.

But obviously no one in their right mind would want the actual reality of that shit if it ever happened.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
There will be no war they will let it happen

Putin has watched the west ignore China's Uyghyr situation because it is easier to pretend it doesnt exist to allow the world economy to flow, and thought I'll have a bit of that thank you

That's what i reckon anyway
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There's a certain glee behind some people's predictions of riots this winter. There's a will to see something.

I'm a way into High-Rise atm and seems I picked a particularly apt time to read it.

The kids have been learning to throw things and set fire to other things this Festival season. They seem fucking angry about being confined for a couple of years.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
The kids have been learning to throw things and set fire to other things this Festival season. They seem fucking angry about being confined for a couple of years.
reading has been like that for about 15 years. or at least, it used to be like that in the 00s. it's the first place i went where normal rules didn't apply - it blew my mind. specific memories: someone that had climbed up a massive tree with a crowd round them chanting 'jump jump jump' ; an angry mob chanting 'dave's a cunt' while trying to tip over an ice cream van ; people trying to rip phone poles out the ground ; 'emo fights' where a crowd of people would surround two 'emos' and make them fight each other in a ring of people ; people running and jumping over piles of burning shit ; the pervasive smell of burning plastic ; joining some campfire and realizing that they were going round the campsite taking people's shoes as fuel for the fire ; more wholesomely leading a parade of people who had stolen a gazebo and were walking around the site chanting 'gazebo' ; 'the pornographic spree' who were a group of about i don't know 20 lads who seemed to be going round asking people (such as me) if they knew why they were called the pornographic spree, and then when you said 'no i don't know' all lifting up their sort of robe things to show you their balls en masse. loved that place, it was lawless.
 

version

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I went to Leeds a couple of years in a row back in the 2000s and had a similar experience. Everything was on fire on the last night, felt like Mad Max or something. We had a huge food fight, blew up a wheelie bin, loads of tents got burned and all sorts.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
i watched a bit of megan the stallion's reading set on TV. once again, quite confronting. i think it's the audience of english 18 year-olds who absolutely love it that maximises the effect. there's a whole section where it's just her making kids dreams come true by eyeballing them from the stage and picking out specific people to come on stage with her. and then they all take selfies. and some girl tries to impress her by jiggling her arse around.
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Was at Leeds the last year RATM played in 00 I think, and the wall of fire from the line of portaloos on the last night was fkn insane. Lord of the flies shit. At one point someone threw what appeared to be an almost full gas canister on there. One of those industrial ones about double the size of a basketball. We'd all forgotten about it while we were conga lining and taking turns to do freestyle dance solos with a flame backdrop to the cheering crowd. I'd gotten two tent poles and was keeping a heavy tribal thing going on an upturned metal bin, soon to be joined by another two tent pole drummers. The heat from the flames was immense. It felt like everything just kept intensifying. Then the riot police swooped in with shields and helmets, one of them rugby tackling a girl who's turn it was to do a performance to the floor. Everyone booed. Brutally ott but I guess that was their way of sending a message to the rest of us. That dampened the spirit for a moment, but iirc shortly after that the gas canister which we'd all forgotten about blew up, and man, I've never been pushed so hard by air like that. Fell backwards onto a tent, fkn nuts. Don't think anyone got hurt. After that the police formed a huge double layered line between us and the fire and things died down.

Something gets released in those moments. Something primal and ancient. Something we keep tucked away for most of our lives.
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Oh yeah and at one point I remember looking across to other camping sections and seeing there were at least another 2 or 3 of the same huge fires blazing probably with exactly the same shit going on at each. Crazy shit
 
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