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Intriguing blend of this idea, Burroughs' nova and the dreaded dialectic:

— In the future, humanity will acquire enough knowledge and accumulate enough energy to make not only the earth but the whole universe explode. When this explosion takes place, the universe will turn into a hot, energetic cloud again, and the cosmic process will restart. This cosmic process will inevitably lead to the reemergence of thinking beings similar to humans... Thus, for humans the main problem is not to build a cosmos - since nature does that on its own - but to return to the original chaos... Ilyenkov understands technology not as a mode of production but as a force of negativity, of destruction, as powerful as the God of the Bible or Hegelian Absolute Spirit. By means of technology, humans become capable of not only denying their own nature but of destroying nature as such. It is this introduction of absolute negativity into natural processes by means of technology that makes nature truly dialectical. Humanity armed with the destructive forces of technology begins to play the role of God as a force of negation leading to apocalypse.

 

shakahislop

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this thing that our boy richard seymore puts his finger on, the thing about apocalyptic desire, is on the money i think. really felt it around the brexit vote, wanting everything to burn down. maybe there is something innate in human beings which wants to do this, a reset, wiping the slate clean, chucking out the old structure. it's something that apocalypse films play to. is that not the thing that we all get out of watching night of the living dead and so on, the wiping away of the old order, the sudden reversal of how things work. if the world isn't working for you and you are hemmed in by reality of course you want to burn it down.
 

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this thing that our boy richard seymore puts his finger on, the thing about apocalyptic desire, is on the money i think. really felt it around the brexit vote, wanting everything to burn down. maybe there is something innate in human beings which wants to do this, a reset, wiping the slate clean, chucking out the old structure. it's something that apocalypse films play to. is that not the thing that we all get out of watching night of the living dead and so on, the wiping away of the old order, the sudden reversal of how things work. if the world isn't working for you and you are hemmed in by reality of course you want to burn it down.

A lashing out at The Grid.
 
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